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Jan 22nd 2004#138971 Report
Member since: Mar 24th 2002
Posts: 3114
To the Americans on this board, who are you going to vote for in the upcoming elections?

I was listening with one ear to GWB giving his speech and I almost threw my table at the TV. How transparent can one get?

A very mild attack at his speech:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4013019/

Here's a nice list of stuff in numbers;
*hands grain of salt to everyone* :p




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Published on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 by the lndependent/UK

George W Bush and the Real State of the Union
Today the President gives his annual address. As the election battle begins, how does his first term add up?

232: Number of American combat deaths in Iraq between May 2003 and January 2004

501: Number of American servicemen to die in Iraq from the beginning of the war - so far

0: Number of American combat deaths in Germany after the Nazi surrender to the Allies in May 1945

0: Number of coffins of dead soldiers returning home from Iraq that the Bush administration has allowed to be photographed

0: Number of funerals or memorials that President Bush has attended for soldiers killed in Iraq

100: Number of fund-raisers attended by Bush or Vice-President Dick Cheney in 2003

13: Number of meetings between Bush and Tony Blair since he became President

10 million: Estimated number of people worldwide who took to the streets in opposition to the invasion of Iraq, setting an all-time record for simultaneous protest

2: Number of nations that Bush has attacked and taken over since coming into the White House

9.2: Average number of American soldiers wounded in Iraq each day since the invasion in March last year

1.6: Average number of American soldiers killed in Iraq per day since hostilities began

16,000: Approximate number of Iraqis killed since the start of war

10,000: Approximate number of Iraqi civilians killed since the beginning of the conflict

$100 billion: Estimated cost of the war in Iraq to American citizens by the end of 2003

$13 billion: Amount other countries have committed towards rebuilding Iraq (much of it in loans) as of 24 October

36%: Increase in the number of desertions from the US army since 1999

92%: Percentage of Iraq's urban areas that had access to drinkable water a year ago

60%: Percentage of Iraq's urban areas that have access to drinkable water today

32%: Percentage of the bombs dropped on Iraq this year that were not precision-guided

1983: The year in which Donald Rumsfeld gave Saddam Hussein a pair of golden spurs

45%: Percentage of Americans who believed in early March 2003 that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 11 September attacks on the US

$127 billion: Amount of US budget surplus in the year that Bush became President in 2001

$374 billion: Amount of US budget deficit in the fiscal year for 2003

1st: This year's deficit is on course to be the biggest in United States history

$1.58 billion: Average amount by which the US national debt increases each day

$23,920: Amount of each US citizen's share of the national debt as of 19 January 2004

1st: The record for the most bankruptcies filed in a single year (1.57 million) was set in 2002

10: Number of solo press conferences that Bush has held since beginning his term. His father had managed 61 at this point in his administration, and Bill Clinton 33

1st: Rank of the US worldwide in terms of greenhouse gas emissions per capita

$113 million: Total sum raised by the Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign, setting a record in American electoral history

$130 million: Amount raised for Bush's re-election campaign so far

$200m: Amount that the Bush-Cheney campaign is expected to raise in 2004

$40m: Amount that Howard Dean, the top fund-raiser among the nine Democratic presidential hopefuls, amassed in 2003

28: Number of days holiday that Bush took last August, the second longest holiday of any president in US history (Record holder: Richard Nixon)

13: Number of vacation days the average American worker receives each year

3: Number of children convicted of capital offences executed in the US in 2002. America is only country openly to acknowledge executing children

1st: As Governor of Texas, George Bush executed more prisoners (152) than any governor in modern US history

2.4 million: Number of Americans who have lost their jobs during the three years of the Bush administration

221,000: Number of jobs per month created since Bush's tax cuts took effect. He promised the measure would add 306,000

1,000: Number of new jobs created in the entire country in December. Analysts had expected a gain of 130,000

1st: This administration is on its way to becoming the first since 1929 (Herbert Hoover) to preside over an overall loss of jobs during its complete term in office

9 million: Number of US workers unemployed in September 2003

80%: Percentage of the Iraqi workforce now unemployed

55%: Percentage of the Iraqi workforce unemployed before the war

43.6 million: Number of Americans without health insurance in 2002

130: Number of countries (out of total of 191 recognized by the United Nations) with an American military presence

40%: Percentage of the world's military spending for which the US is responsible

$10.9 million: Average wealth of the members of Bush's original 16-person cabinet

88%: Percentage of American citizens who will save less than $100 on their 2006 federal taxes as a result of 2003 cut in capital gains and dividends taxes

$42,000: Average savings members of Bush's cabinet are expected to enjoy this year as a result in the cuts in capital gains and dividends taxes

$42,228: Median household income in the US in 2001

$116,000: Amount Vice-President Cheney is expected to save each year in taxes

44%: Percentage of Americans who believe the President's economic growth plan will mostly benefit the wealthy

700: Number of people from around the world the US has incarcerated in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba

1st: George W Bush became the first American president to ignore the Geneva Conventions by refusing to allow inspectors access to US-held prisoners of war

+6%: Percentage change since 2001 in the number of US families in poverty

1951: Last year in which a quarterly rise in US military spending was greater than the one the previous spring

54%: Percentage of US citizens who believe Bush was legitimately elected to his post

1st: First president to execute a federal prisoner in the past 40 years. Executions are typically ordered by separate states and not at federal level

9: Number of members of Bush's defense policy board who also sit on the corporate board of, or advise, at least one defense contractor

35: Number of countries to which US has suspended military assistance after they failed to sign agreements giving Americans immunity from prosecution before the International Criminal Court

$300 million: Amount cut from the federal program that provides subsidies to poor families so they can heat their homes

$1 billion: Amount of new US military aid promised Israel in April 2003 to offset the "burdens" of the US war on Iraq

58 million: Number of acres of public lands Bush has opened to road building, logging and drilling

200: Number of public-health and environmental laws Bush has attempted to downgrade or weaken

29,000: Number of American troops - which is close to the total of a whole army division - to have either been killed, wounded, injured or become so ill as to require evacuation from Iraq, according to the Pentagon

90%: Percentage of American citizens who said they approved of the way George Bush was handling his job as president when asked on 26 September, 2001

53%: Percentage of American citizens who approved of the way Bush was handling his job as president when asked on 16 January, 2004

© 2004 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd
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At least it's nice to see the last two percentages, some hope is still left. But how good a chance has the non-elected godfather got to continue as president of the US?
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Jan 22nd 2004#138993 Report
Member since: Jan 14th 2003
Posts: 942
What exactly is the point in copy pasting all of these numbers? What are you trying to show? Are you anti-Bush? If so, why?

I'd be interested to know why someone from Finland would dislike Bush.

EDIT: Sorry, i thought you were a Canadian for some reason.

Nos.
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Jan 22nd 2004#138995 Report
Member since: Mar 29th 2003
Posts: 1326
erm - paavos not canadian. hes from the land of the fins.
and I dont have the time or effort to get involved in this - maybe you can argue with someone else :D

oh and thanks for the salt ;)
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Jan 22nd 2004#138998 Report
Member since: Nov 26th 2001
Posts: 2586
You listened to his dribble? Those speeches are glossed over versions of what tiny bit of crediblity the president can muster for the viewers. Hopefully there will be a lot more of this kind of criticism of his speech and what he is good for so maybe there is a chance he won't get elected again.
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Jan 22nd 2004#139001 Report
Member since: Mar 18th 2001
Posts: 6632
Quite a few: Number of anti-Bush/America posts Paavo has made since Bush was elected.

Not many: Number of people on this forum that are even old enough to vote and live in America.

Even fewer: Number of people that are old enough to vote, live in America, are registered to vote, visit this forum, and will actually have their opinion influenced at all by a post from a foreignor in a messageboard about Photoshop.

;)

** edit test by pank ***
no actual words changed. Just proving a point...
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Jan 22nd 2004#139003 Report
Member since: Jan 14th 2003
Posts: 942
I have heard his speeches, yes. Not sure what you're getting at, what do you mean "tiny bit of credibility"?

Nos.
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Jan 22nd 2004#139007 Report
Member since: Dec 16th 2003
Posts: 65
Paavo - with you on this one.

--Not anti-bush, just realistic, not fake.
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Jan 22nd 2004#139018 Report
Member since: Aug 28th 2001
Posts: 970
Claims vs Facts


Interesting.
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Jan 22nd 2004#139023 Report
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Last Edited: January 22, 12:28pm for fear of "spewing anti-american hate" and not an opinion.
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Jan 22nd 2004#139027 Report
Member since: Feb 14th 2003
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very funny decker

heathrowe
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