Moore's New Film Blocked

the "free and open society" that moore says should entitle him to be able to publish the film also entitles disney to block any film that they want to, for whatever reason they want to. He can always find another studio that will publish it...

Why shouldn’t Americans be allowed to see his film though? Misinterpreting the facts? Hey, that’s what the news does anyways. The only difference is his misinterpretations are different than our news broadcasts. Personally I’d like to see what he has to say and decide for myself.

Agreed. But if Disney doesn't want to produce/distribute it, then that's their choice. They are a company remember, and companies are concerned with their reputation.

Heck, i may not agree with what Moore has to say, but i would die for his right to say it!

Nos.

[QUOTE=deker]the "free and open society" that moore says should entitle him to be able to publish the film also entitles disney to block any film that they want to, for whatever reason they want to. He can always find another studio that will publish it...[/QUOTE]

I agree. I think Miramax "will" find another destributor.

I just don't know if I'm comfortable with Disney or any corporation being able to block whatever they want though. Shoot look at what they already own.

You'll notice they own lots of radio stations, tv station, book publishing companies along with movie distrubtors and so on.



Publishing
Book Publishing Imprints
Walt Disney Company Book Publishing

Hyperion Books

Miramax Books

Magazine Subsidiary Groups
ABC Publishing Group

Disney Publishing, Inc.

Diversified Publications Group

Financial Services and Medical Group

Miller Publishing Company

Magazine titles include:
Automotive Industries

Biography (with GE and Hearst)

Discover

Disney Adventures

Disney Magazine

ECN News

ESPN Magazine (distributed by Hearst)

Family Fun

Institutional Investor

JCK

Kodin

Top Famille - French family magazine

US Weekly (50%)

Video Business

Quality
Broadcasting
(includes the Capital City/ABC subsidiary)

Television
ABC Television Network

Owned and Operated Television Stations
WLS - Chicago

WJRT - Flint

KFSN - Fresno

KTRK - Houston

KABC - Los Angeles

WABC - New York City

WPVI - Philadelphia

WTVD - Raleigh - Durham

KGO - San Francisco

WTVG - Toledo

Radio Stations
WKHX – Atlanta

WYAY – Atlanta

WDWD – Atlanta

WMVP – Chicago

WLS – Chicago

WZZN – Chicago

WRDZ – Chicago

WBAP – Dallas

KSCS – Dallas

KMEO – Dallas

KESN – Dallas

KMKI – Dallas

WDRQ – Detroit

WJR – Detroit

WDVD – Detroit

KABC – Los Angeles

KLOS – Los Angeles

KDIS – Los Angeles

KSPN – Los Angeles

KQRS – Minneapolis - St. Paul

KXXR – Minneapolis - St. Paul

KDIZ – Minneapolis - St. Paul

WGVX – Minneapolis - St. Paul

WGVY – Minneapolis - St. Paul

WGVZ – Minneapolis - St. Paul

WABC – New York City

WPLJ – New York City

WQEW – New York City

WEVD – New York City

KGO – San Francisco

KSFO – San Francisco

KIID – Sacramento

KMKY – Oakland

WMAL – Washington DC

WJZW – Washington DC

WRQX – Washington DC

KQAM – Wichita

KKDZ – Seattle

WSDZ – St. Louis

WWMK – Cleveland

KMIX – Phoenix

KADZ – Denver

KDDZ – Denver

WWMI – Tampa

KMIC – Houston

WMYM – Miami

WWJZ – Philadelphia

WMKI – Boston

WDZK – Hartford

WDDZ – Providence

WDZY – Richmond

WGFY – Charlotte

WDYZ – Orlando

WMNE – West Palm Beach

WEAE – Pittsburgh

WDRD – Louisville

WPPY – Albany, NY

KPHN – Kansas City

WQUA – Mobile

WBML – Jacksonville

WFDF – Flint

WFRO – Fremont, OH

WDMV – Damascus, MD

WHKT – Norfolk

Radio Disney
ESPN Radio (syndicated programming)

Cable Television
ABC Family

The Disney Channel

Toon Disney

SoapNet

ESPN Inc. (80% - Hearst Corporation owns the remaining 20%) includes ESPN, ESPN2,
ESPN News, ESPN Now, ESPN Extreme

Classic Sports Network

A&E Television (37.5%, with Hearst and GE)

The History Channel (with Hearst and GE)

Lifetime Television (50%, with Hearst)

Lifetime Movie Network (50% with Hearst)

E! Entertainment (with Comcast and Liberty Media)

International Broadcast
The Disney Channel UK

The Disney Channel Taiwan

The Disney Channel Australia

The Disney Channel Malaysia

The Disney Channel France

The Disney Channel Middle East

The Disney Channel Italy

The Disney Channel Spain

ESPN INC. International Ventures

Sportsvision of Australia (25%)

ESPN Brazil (50%)

ESPN STAR (50%) - sports programming throughout Asia

Net STAR (33%) owners of The Sports Network of Canada

Other International Ventures (all with minority ownership)
Tele-Munchen - German television production and distribution

RTL-2 - German television production and distribution

Hamster Productions - French television production

TV Sport of France

Tesauro of Spain

Scandinavian Broadcasting System

Japan Sports Channel

Television Production and Distribution
Buena Vista Television

Touchstone Television

Walt Disney Television

Walt Disney Television Animation (has three wholly owned production facilities outside the United States - Japan, Australia, Canada)

Movie Production and Distribution
Walt Disney Pictures

Touchstone Pictures

Hollywood Pictures

Caravan Pictures

Miramax Films

Buena Vista Home Video

Buena Vista Home Entertainment

Buena Vista International

Financial and Retail
Financial
Sid R. Bass (partial interest - crude petroleum and natural gas production)

Retail
The Disney Store

Multimedia
Walt Disney Internet Group
ABC Internet Group

ABC.com

ABCNEWS.com

Oscar.com

Mr. Showbiz

Disney Online (web sites and content)

Disney's Daily Blast

Disney.Com

Family.Com

ESPN Internet Group

ESPN.sportzone.com

Soccernet.com (60%)

NBA.com

NASCAR.com

Skillgames

Wall of Sound

Go Network

Toysmart.com (majority stake - educational toys)
Disney Interactive (develops/markets computer software, video games, CD-ROMs)
Music
Buena Vista Music Group

Hollywood Records ( popular music and soundtracks for motion pictures)

Lyric Street Records (Nashville based country music label)

Mammoth Records (popular and alternative music label)

Walt Disney Records

Theater and Sports
Theatrical Productions
Walt Disney Theatrical Productions (productions include stage version of The Lion King,Beauty and the Beast, King David)

Professional Sports Franchises
Anaheim Sports, Inc.

Mighty Ducks of Anaheim (National Hockey League)

Theme Parks & Resorts
Disneyland - Anaheim, CA

Disney -MGM Studios

Disneyland Paris

Disney Regional Entertainment (entertainment and theme dining in metro areas)

Disneyland Resort

Disney Vacation Club

Epcot

Magic Kingdom

Tokyo Disneyland (partial ownership)

Walt Disney World - Orlando, FL

Disney's Animal Kingdom

Disney - MGM Studios

Walt Disnery World Sports Complex (golf course, auto racing track and basball complex)

Disney Cruise Line

The Disney Institute

Other

TiVo (partial investment)

You aren't suggesting that the government should control the views of a company, are you?

Nos.

[QUOTE=Nostalgia]You aren't suggesting that the government should control the views of a company, are you?

Nos.[/QUOTE]

The government says you can’t refuse a customer because of the color of their skin right?

The government says you can’t refuse a customer because of the color of their skin right?

Yes, and? We're talking about a MEDIA company here.

Is it morally wrong to discriminate against someones views? If you meet a racist, aren't you a bit discriminatory? What you're suggesting here is that if i have this idea for a neo-nazi propaganda film, the bank MUST give me a loan, the production companies MUST supply me with funds and resources, and that the distributer MUST play my film in theatres, or they would be violating the law.

Ridiculous!

Nos.

Weeeeell you asked if I was suggesting that the government should control the views of a company. Obviously if you want to discriminate against someone, that’s your poragative...

The government is going to have some say as how you can conduct your business. Wouldn’t you say they already control the views by saying you have to accept everyone even though you may not?

Your whole neo nazi example is way off. If you don’t think in this country we should treat everyone equally no matter how off they are than I feel sorry for you. I don't think it makes you much better than the neo nazi then. Nazi’s are the extreme, but you can say that goes for minority races and what not. In the case of this thread we’re talking about political ideals and censorship.

If the neo Nazi…

A) Qualifies for a loan then yes the bank should give it to him.

B) If a company offers to fund his or her project then yes they should be able accept funds just like anyone else.

C) If the Neo Nazi film does in fact meet the requirement and quality levels of a block buster movie than yes it should be at least screened to see how it would do in the theatre. (It probably won’t get shown and I sure as hell wouldn’t see anything pro Hitler but they should have the right to screen it for whoever wants to see it.

Anyway, I think we’re just going to have to agree to disagree on this…

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/06/opinion/06THU4.html?ex=1084420800&en=dd695e1433b69ff3&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php

I just don't know if I'm comfortable with Disney or any corporation being able to block whatever they want though. Shoot look at what they already own.

i guess i don't quite understand this comment. how can you not be comfortable with di$ney not choosing to distribute a project they have rights to?

chris

Anyway, I think we’re just going to have to agree to disagree on this…

I suppose so. I guess i just have a problem with giving the government even MORE power...

Nos.