Does the G5 make sex better?

APPLE IS THE BEST COMPUTER UT THERE PERIOD< all this window hates are just wishing they could have an apple with that beutifull wide screen monitor, we can go on and on comparing them, but the reallity is macs will always be better in graphic intense applications, i mean come on people have you ever been in a serious graphic company and seen them working with windows>??? i have and builr windows boxes and love them for their worth but when you talk about graphics APPLE RULES PERIOD...... :b

Anyone can get an article for either Mac or PC ( like I just did) and take something out of context and say “here’s why there better.” or " here's why you're wrong" I think they both have good qualities personally. I use a PC at home and a mac at school. I prefer the PC....

lol okie I'm done with this topic. :o)

I'm not saying the Mac is better for everyone either. But a lot of PC users refuse to even give it a chance, instead they repeat myths they heard like 5 years ago, rather than checking it out for themselves or even considering the Mac as an option. For instance the article you originally posted was a bunch of horse****. It's like saying the new McDonald's big mac is gross just because you saw an ad for it on TV before they had even made them yet, let alone you actually try one yourself. That article was completely based on a few little graphs on the Apple web site, not on ANY actual independant benchmarks or tests, and yet you were spreading it around like it is some fact to show how the Mac is slower than the PC at everything. I'm just trying to clear up some of the myths surrounding the Mac, and get people to maybe just consider it for a moment, rather than just repeating what you read on some thread on Slashdot or something.

But if you know the strengths of the Mac and still choose the PC, then that's your choice. I mean I'm not going to argue with that. It's just irritating to hear some people's reasons for not using a Mac that simply aren't true.

I think you provided a lot of good info.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by deker
[B][snip]I'm not saying the Mac is better for everyone either. But a lot of PC users refuse to even give it a chance, instead they repeat myths they heard like 5 years ago, rather than checking it out for themselves or even considering the Mac as an option.[/snip]

[snip]It's just irritating to hear some people's reasons for not using a Mac that simply aren't true.[/snip][/B][/QUOTE]

preach it. that was actually me till i worked in a few design firms (which have been 96% mac with only a pc or 2 for testing/development, just fyi). arguments like peripheral compatibility just aren't valid, if anything macs offer true plug-and-play for digicams, dvcams, etc., and files from flash/photoshop/etc. are now cross-platform with only rare glitches.

my other point, which i've said countless times before, is that horsepower only takes you so far. even if your pc might be a bit faster, so what? that's got little to do with how fast you finish a site or a print piece. build your dream dual-cpu machine and gimme a g5 and i'll still whip ya ;)

chris

This isn't my original reply (this is shorter).....

Other than (a couple of seconds) speed, there's no reason to blow mass amounts of money to get a system that works. I have a 900Mhz with 512 MB RAM, and I run Flash, Photoshop, Lightwave and various other programs with very little hesitation (Lightwave can get tricky, but only if I have a couple of IE windows open, Winamp, AIM and other misc. programs running at the same time). I've had the system for a couple of years, and it still runs strong. It handles games pretty damn good too (UT2003, Serious Sam, Battlefield 1942, etc). What more do I need? Status? No.

Ok, so I'm ballparking this one, since I don't feel like getting into specifics.

Pentium 4 3.06GHz 533mhz Xeon CPU With heatsink & fan (CPU/mobo combo, but I can't find many of those for sale online for Macs).
- $723.98

RAM (unknown)
- $50-200, depending. ($184 for PC4200 DDR 1GB, $14 for PC133 128MB, I have no idea what a Pentium board holds)

Video card
-do you want the fastest card, or one that can actually support what games put out? Considering games pump out minimal Megabytes in graphics, there's no need for a 512 MB, super duper 3D, connect-your-whole-house-to-it video card. This is not a pro-PC comment, just people seem to want to spend money for no apparent reason other than to spend it.
- $129 - RADEON 9500 128MB (128MB? game play for a LONG time)

Sound card
- $20 - Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum (random pick, nice card)

$1073.98 (with the $200 limit on RAM).

I'm not into "comparison shopping", but a 3Ghz machine will NOT be utilized in it's intended manner for some time. I've barely peaked the limits on my 900Mhz machine, and I abuse it daily. I only have 512 MB RAM for the semi-areas where it needs it.

Throw in a monitor for about $200, average. (that's a 19" monitor).

So that's $1200. Gee, no reason (for me) to have a Pentium. So I'll get the Athlon XP 3000 with cpu, fan/mobo combo for $250.00. So that brings the CPU cost down to about $600.00. $800 with the 19" monitor.

Let's say $1500 TOPS, with a case, cd-r, dvd(r) or any other stuff thrown in. Can be done for WELL UNDER $2000. Parts finding and replacement is EASY. I'd build a cheaper, more reasonable solution for way less than $1500. And by the time I actually need more than that, I can build the current version of the same PC for the same price (or less).

The ONLY (I think) thing I can agree with Derek on is the DLL situation. But the OEM DLLs are NOT the problem. If you install Windows as is and run it, you will pretty much not have a problem (DLLs get corrupted, all files can, it happens). But who's going to do that? The problem is that software companies think they have their own better version of a DLL, so they re-write it and replace it to go along with their software. The next (software) programmer might think they have a better DLL than the original, and they replace it upon install. So you have a bunch of re-written DLLs over time and THAT corrupts the system. It's a faulty system, but in my years of Windows (I precede Windows), I've never had any concern over it.

ALL OS'es have their faults. Windows has more faults, why? Because the mass majority use it therefore more holes are always looked for and found. If Mac OS was the more popular and broadly used I can sleep assured that it too will have it's holes found. No software is secure, ever. First used, first abused. Can you find more cracks for Photoshop, or Joe Bob's Photo-Imaging Editor? Well, it seems the one most used would be the first abused and cracked.

I won't get into the real reason I stick with PCs/Windows. But I will say I've used other systems and their OS'. Just so I don't sound totally biased with no reason.

Originally posted by MobileBadBoy

Pentium 4 3.06GHz 533mhz Xeon CPU With heatsink & fan (CPU/mobo combo, but I can't find many of those for sale online for Macs).
- $723.98

thats becuse the don't make them for mac's ?

Originally posted by zyconium
thats becuse the don't make them for mac's ?

I meant finding CPU/mobo combos in general, for sale, online. I didn't mean I haven't seen a Xeon combo for Macs. ;)

oh, :\
you could probably get some here
http://www.mcpb.com/html/macref1.html
or one of the other 23482390 resuts I got from google.

You're comparing a bargain bin PC built from scavenged parts to the absolute top of the line machine made by Apple though. You said yourself you don't need all that speed, so you'd be fine with a 1ghz eMac, which you can get with 512 megs of ram, a 80gig hard drive, and a Superdrive (DVD Burner) plus a built-in 17" monitor, speakers, usb, firewire, etc for $1300. You can save a couple hundred off that with an educational discount.

The 15" iMac is the same price, with a 15" LCD, combo drive, 256mb ram, 80gb hard drive, speakers, etc. $1800 for a 17" lcd, superdrive, 1.25ghz g4, etc.

You can get a 1.25ghz G4 Powermac (the old desktop model before hte G5) for $1300, combo drive, 80gig hard drive, 256mb ram (holds 2 gigs), and it's a tower, so it's fully upgradeable. Hard drives, video cards, ram, etc.

Dual 1.25ghz for $1600.

This isn't even counting the refurbished machines, which knock 2 to 4 hundred dollars off the price.

For example: Power Mac G4 1Ghz 256MB/60GB/Combo/GigE/56K for $950.00

iMac G4 800MHz/256MB/80GB/SuperDrive/GigE/56K-17 for $1200