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Jul 19th 2002#59739 Report
Member since: May 1st 2002
Posts: 3034
hmmm, is it me, or does netscapes own website look messed up in there own browser 4.75, it looks like it too me, I found that to be quite enjoyable
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Jul 19th 2002#59741 Report
Member since: Nov 14th 2001
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I bailed on those idiots when they got in the sack with AOL -

does anyone REALLY use Netscape? c'mon, anyone? bueller? bueller?

didn't think so.
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Jul 19th 2002#59742 Report
Member since: May 1st 2002
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I know I don't use it.. cause everything looks whack in it
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Jul 19th 2002#59743 Report
Member since: Mar 20th 2001
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use Mozilla instead. Or Opera
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Jul 19th 2002#59748 Report
Member since: May 14th 2002
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Generally speaking, all versions of Netscape and Opera combined account for around 8% of browsers being used on the Internet. Even with Mozilla added, which I couldn't find stats for, probably is still about 8% total. I wouldn't feel too guilty as a designer if things don't look exactly like you want them to in these browsers.
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Jul 19th 2002#59749 Report
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hey 4man - where did you find those numbers? I was looking for that info a few weeks ago for a meeting about a new website.
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Jul 19th 2002#59753 Report
Member since: May 14th 2002
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I made them up just to look cool and knowledgeable in front of all you guys. Were you impressed?

Actually, I got them by looking here...

http://www.thecounter.com/stats/ (pick a month and click on *browsers*)

and here...

http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat.htm
although this site reflects both a lower *and * higher percentage than 8% depending on the source you look at.

and here...

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

All in all, it's probably still around 8% or so on average depending on whose numbers you are looking at.
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Jul 19th 2002#59754 Report
Member since: Mar 20th 2001
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That's just the percentage. Look at the actual numbers instead
Opera - 3,113,504

Not to mention that you can cloak Opera as IE

I'm sure some designer is one of those 3 million. 3 million isn't a small number. Just my 2cents
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Jul 19th 2002#59759 Report
Member since: May 14th 2002
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Whether it's 3, 3 million or 3 hundred trillion, it's still only 8% which is statistically insignifigant compared to the entire population.

By the same numbers - 12,730,040 view at 640x480 which is 3%. You going to design your site for them too????
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Jul 19th 2002#59770 Report
Member since: May 14th 2002
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Oh and 48,503,653 don't use JavaScript. 15,126,010 only have 256 colors on their monitor (with 119,819 having only 16 colors). 1,540,003 still use Windows 3.x OS and 500,000 users browse using IE 2 or 3.

If you design for the numbers instead of the percentages, you'll have a hard time making a site that looks *good* to 92% of all of the visitors who see it.

Just *my* 2 cents...
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