I'm thinking about converting . . .

I have Windows2k and it crashes several times a week. Sure, maybe if I spent more time tweaking it and playing with it like a 'power user', then it would be more stable. But guess what... I don't WANT to do that. I don't want to tweak anything. I want to open a box, plug in a couple of cords, and then start using programs and creating something. I don't care if the thing has twenty processors in the little box. As long as it works, that's all I care about. I like to use things. Not maintain them. I hate getting oil changes in my car... filling up the gas tank... etc etc. I just want to use stuff. Not necessarily understand how it works. I hate opening the lid of my PC, and wish I never had to. I would not enjoy building my own computer. Computers are a tool to me. And I'm interested in what I can do with the tools. I'm not interested in the tool itself. I love the aqua interface, and it makes me happy just looking at it. I like to look at pretty things, and everythign Apple makes is pretty. If Macs provide no functionality over a PC, like you say, then I choose the one with the pretty package that makes me happy, and is easier to use. I don't care if quadruple processor PCs can process the gaussian blur filter faster in photoshop or not. But the Mac makes me happy, and when I'm happy I do better work, and enjoy it more, and to me, that is worth a lot more than saving a couple hundred dollars.

good points.

Hey man, if it makes ya happy, go with it.

I think the main thing you'll enjoy about being on a mac, deker, is the community that comes with it. You acquire thousands of friends when you aquire a mac. (Of course, if you walk into a Office Depot or a Circuit City, etc., looking for software or hardware - you have NONE -"macs suck! waah!").

This really comes in handy when a funky error should show up, too - you get on the phone or email a mac person, and they'll help you out - gladly - and probably for free. Compare that to waiting on hold with Sony or Gateway or MS. That, my friend, is definitely not happiness.

Oh, and as far as the mouse goes - you either A) get used to it. B)hold down the control key or C)get a tablet! (hey, at least they killed off the stupid little puck mouse.)

Can't you also just hold down the button for about two seconds? That's the way it works on a colleague of mine's Mac. He's running OS9 though.

And yeah, I know what you mean about the community. I have witnessed that on messageboards a lot already.

yup. that works to download things off the web.

in Photoshop, however, you can get the same results as right-click by pressing control and clicking.

I'm on OS 9.1 at home. I have OSX too, and it's really sweet, it just needs some more 3rd party support and some time. You may have already read some of my OSX rants, I'm bent at apple and EPSON for their miscues concerning drivers & X support.

ColorSync alone is worth the price of admission into the Mac club.

Ok, destroying myth number 1: YOU CAN HAVE A TWO BUTTON MOUSE ON A MAC. Just plug it in...

:p

Chris

Let look at the psychology of this discussion....

People are comfortable with what they know. People inherently resist change. Add to that the little 'community' that graphicsguy refers to, and the next thing you know we have product racism!

People align themselves and then rarely change. Deker is a quandry for me, in as much as he is commiting mutiny, if you will. Makes me think he was just a Mac 'plant' from the get go--a corporate spy--a little industrial espionage.

LISTEN TO ME DEKER!! You'll be their poster child for a while, but soon, they'll forget you.... they'll exclude you from their inside jokes, you'll be a pariah--because you came to them as a defector!!! IT'S NOT TOO LATE, RUN BACK!!!!! The only reason you're being seduced is the 'prestige' of Macs in the graphics community....

Benchmarking and performance arguments aside, my big issues are user community--because that's where I get my tech support. From my friends who are technically inclined--and NONE of them use Macs. If I'd grown up in an artsy commune--with one dad and several mothers--where they used macs all my life, maybe I'd be able to tear one down and rebuild it. With my PC, I don't have to log on to a web forum to get help, I can call any one of a dozen friends / family / co-workers and get help. They can't even get the G4's in the lab working acceptably with the campus gurus.

I can ask any one of (no, not thousands) millions of peeps for help.... help.... help.... ::silence:: on my PC.

I have Windows2k and it crashes several times a week. ~Deker

You have a hardware / driver issue then, Deker. W2K is one of the most stable platforms I've seen in a LONG time. We just put a system together for my Dad a coupla weeks ago--loaded W2K, the drivers, and let her rip. She's been rock solid! If your system was a Mac and you had a hardware issue, you'd be without a system because you'd have to send it back--with your PC, you can get help about anywhere.

Yeah. There's never been any technical issues with pcs that can't be answered by somebody online for free. The rare times that I do have to do that, I seek aid through usenet. As for calling up people, everybody I know uses pcs and would attempt to solve my quandry if I had a technical question.

Dude, you're reaching........far. And, that's not psychology, it's sociology.

If you want to play the race card, (Johnny Cochran.....much?!) Think about who's who in that comparison.

Wintel = pre-emancipation-proclamation "whitey." (just follow me through...)

Macintosh represents the minority in your Platform analogy, the struggler, not the repressor.

If you read this thread all the way through from the beginning, you'll see that nobody recruited Deker, there isn't any mutiny or espionage, either. (are you a gamer ?) And your war terminology makes the race card you just played sound even more asanine. - he's a consumer, not a soldier. So who is Linux, cap'n? Switzerland? (Shall we get into Netscape vs. IE?)

(nobody ever mentioned prestige either, that came from you, Malibu)

This argument bores the crap out of me. I've had it 5689254124587452445226669965688.3 times.

I know I'm reachin'.... we've all had this discussion, like, 10,000 times--and I'm just tryin' to find a new way to have fun with it. I do like some of your analogies, especially the one about Linux being Switzerland! However....

And, that's not psychology, it's sociology. ~colored-diceguy

While statement '3' paragraph '2' of my previous post WAS in fact a sociological statement, statements '1' & '2' were clearly statements dealing with psychological issues.

Last good debate I instigated on here resulted with Axiom calling me a name and quiting the forum (one more time), I hope you don't give up that easy. But if you want to consent, that's okay, I am kinda getting bored with it too.

::editor's note, Malibu may have exaggerated his personal involvement in one of Ax's ocassions for departure from this forum::