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Jan 1st 2002#25453 Report
Member since: Nov 10th 2001
Posts: 22
I am trying to place a pic of Elisabeth shue on a different background but the method I am using doesnt seem to work or I may lack the technique.
http://www.radiofree.com/cgi-bin/dynamic/ThrowingCandy-shue?picture=30
The method I was sure would work is select a color channel to get some if any contrast between the background and subject. choose high pass filter, Choose Image>Adjust>Levels (I put the levels at about 100 for left and 180 for right) Then using the lasso I alt clicked and selected the inside of subject. With the lasso selection I ctrl deleted to fill with white. Finally I did the best clean up job to rid of any uneeded info that I could.
Went to color composite, control clicked to make selection. The selection was horrible and leaked to the outside. I also tried another picture and the same results.
http://www.radiofree.com/cgi-bin/dynamic/ThrowingCandy-shue?picture=8
How can this be done so I have a professional looking image to use for creating another picture with different scenery?

Thanks
Ryan
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Jan 1st 2002#25488 Report
Member since: Mar 27th 2001
Posts: 2237
you got everything right... but you don't CTR+click the color composite... you CTR+click the dupe channel you did all the work on... you've got the technique you need.
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Jan 1st 2002#25490 Report
Member since: Nov 10th 2001
Posts: 22
I made some better selections but still No luck capturing the hair.
In the ps5 bible it says to follow these instructions. I am able enough to make a selection but the selection is in NO way good.
All that work and its the same results as using the stupid lasso for the whole thing! The edged of the hair are NOT picking up.. When I move the selection to a new image it looks like a Kindergartener worked on it.

Please help

Ryan
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Jan 1st 2002#25491 Report
Member since: Mar 27th 2001
Posts: 2237
you are just not being patient enough. I know where the technique comes from, it has been in every photoshop bible since version 3....

you have to meticulously use the block eraser to fix the mask channel around the hair... I have spent hours on end trying to make a selection on a single image...

You have the technique... you just have to have the patients.

keep trying... you'll get it. Re-read Deke's steps..... I think you are going a little astray.
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Jan 2nd 2002#25502 Report
Member since: Nov 8th 2001
Posts: 204
take a look at my post below.
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Jan 3rd 2002#25721 Report
Member since: Mar 24th 2001
Posts: 3734
See....like this crap...sxpd-whatever......who cares?
not me, nor probably anybody else. He asked a question, not whether or not he should, as you so elegantly put it: "work at it". Just shut up.
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Jan 3rd 2002#25724 Report
Member since: Nov 8th 2001
Posts: 204
.....

DBM has a good tutorial for this and there are some filters that can help in removing the background from the picture. I also had to work on this alot to achive the removing the background when it inculdes a person's hair or an animals fur. It does takes patience and you have to work at it in order to get it right. Some things i would suggest are using the background easer to edit your extraction. sometimes that does help
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Jan 3rd 2002#25754 Report
Member since: Nov 10th 2001
Posts: 22
So where can i find some tuts?
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Jan 3rd 2002#25758 Report
Member since: Nov 8th 2001
Posts: 204
www.designsbymark.com
http://www.wastedyouth.org/tutorials/impose.htm
They are more out there these are the two iam most familar with. If i find more ill let you know.
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Jan 5th 2002#25931 Report
Member since: Oct 24th 2001
Posts: 19
I find it sad that patience can be mispelled so many times.
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