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Jul 14th 2004#155599 Report
Member since: May 10th 2004
Posts: 10
I think I'm in over my head here. I did a logo for a company in Photoshop CS (it was an ad agency that contracted me so no direct contact with client). Just some text and clip art, nothing fancy. I've sent off the layered file in .psd format. Now they want .eps format. I know you can save as .eps format in photoshop, but there's lots of different options.

Photoshop EPS
Photoshop DCS 1.0 [*eps]
Photoshop DCS 2.0 [*eps]

Other options are

Preview - TIFF (1 bit/pixel) or Tiff (8 bit/pixel)

Encoding - ASCII85, ASCII or Binary. Or JPEG low medium or high.

Include Halftone Screen - yes or no
Include TransferFunction - yes or no
PostScript Color Management - yes or no
Image Interpolation - yes or no

No clue what I need to select here. Is this dependent upon the print shop specifications? Or is there a typical EPS setting I should choose and be done with it?

Thanks!
Shelly
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Jul 14th 2004#155600 Report
Member since: Mar 18th 2001
Posts: 6632
They probably mean they want it in vector format, so they can resize it and so forth. That's what I usually expect when I ask for an EPS from someone. So either way you probably won't end up giving what they wanted.

But basically the defaults should be fine, whatever they are.
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Jul 14th 2004#155601 Report
Member since: May 10th 2004
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Decker, so, I need to redo in Illustrator?

I'm still confused as to the whole vector concept. I know Photoshop now does text in vector form right? However, the overall output is not in vector, right?

As for the clip art I used, it was never in vector form (came from microsoft clipart site per customer specifications)

Poop, I have Illustrator, I've just never used it.
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Jul 14th 2004#155602 Report
Member since: Mar 18th 2001
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yeah you'd wanna do it in illustrator for vector work. Before you go to all that trouble though i'd just get the exact specs they want. Like why are the requesting EPS, etc. Do they want it in vector or can they just not open PSD documents, etc.
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Jul 14th 2004#155605 Report
Member since: May 10th 2004
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The logo is for a small local car dealership. From what I understand (from the ad agency lady) the car dealership now wants to use the logo on license plates. The license plate manufacture company is requesting EPS format (although I didn't know this starting out). I would have never accepted the job.

Is nothing ever easy? Thanks for responding earlier.
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Jul 14th 2004#155607 Report
Member since: Jul 10th 2002
Posts: 1706
DCS means Desktop Colour Separation. When you create an eps this way, it creates 5 files, one for each of the four CMYK channels and the eps file itself. You more then likely do not need to go this route. Just save the file as an eps in Photoshop.

A vector EPS is infinitly scaleable, a Photoshop EPS is simply just a printable file, like a TIFF or a PDF. Check the 8 bit preview, and save it as ASCII. With the last four things, there shouldn't be too much of a reason to click them, but I'm not positive on that.

But in reading your post, I'm wondering if you shouldn't have done this in Illustrator in the first place. This could be a fairly large error on your part, unless the company said it was fine to do it in Photoshop. The problem being, with Photoshop, your very limited in the usage of this logo since it will not keep its quality when you scale it up.

Cheers
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Jul 14th 2004#155608 Report
Member since: Feb 18th 2004
Posts: 736
Well...if you have to use photoshop to design a logo, always, always design big. Even huge. If your client specifies how big they want the logo, make sure you have designed it in at least double the size (photoshop only). But make sure the logo would look good on a business card. Just because it looks good big doesn't mean it looks good small.
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Jul 14th 2004#155612 Report
Member since: May 10th 2004
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Yes, I know it was probably a mistake not to use Illustrator. It was a very small $40 bid.

Originally, I used Photoshop to draw a vector based Capital Dome image (using paths). I'm not good at much, but I can draw (at least on paper). The customer didn't like it. They sent me an image from the microsoft clipart site and ask me to use it. After reviewing the copyright laws, I used it, against my better judgement.

I'm new to all this stuff. Thanks for all your input.
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Jul 15th 2004#155626 Report
Member since: May 13th 2003
Posts: 644
I think you should charge them for the vector format only because you didnt use that for the original work. Hopefully they didnt specify for it to be in vector format. Also once you give them the vector, they can reuse it over and over in different formats with anyother designer so i think you shold charge them extra for the vector. Just my to pennies.
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Jul 15th 2004#155635 Report
Member since: May 10th 2004
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No, the ad agency did not specify vector format. And, I even informed them I would deliver it in Photoshop format. However, with there being 3 parties involved, you never know what the actual customer said.

I'm willing to take a loss on this because I'm just getting started and I need a portfolio. This was a learning experience. I will be breaking out the Illustrator book and learning it this weekend. Also, I guess I need to lay down the rules a little better in advance. I quoted $40 with unlimited revisions because I estimated it would take me only a couple hours. I've now got about 30 hours or so in this project because of the 18 revisions I have done. I've been working on this since May.

I want liquor.
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