// Bush v. Kerry | PC v. Mac // Clash of the Titans

[QUOTE=zyconium]heh completely off subject!~ I'm soo annoyed at apple for making those damn ibooks faster and adding the airport extreme card after I bought mine [/QUOTE]

i like it cause i'm typing on one right now :D

chris

[QUOTE=Pganguly]I'm a republican who likes macs...

I..

I don't know who to trust.[/QUOTE]

ditto. :D

[QUOTE=Isil]America shall always have the same old Conservative, Christian (worst part of it all, they shouldn't be allowed to call themselves Christians), Homohating white pricks.[/quote] And what makes you so different? They are homo-hating, and you are Conservative-hating. You may think that you are special, and deserving of praise simply because you don't hate gay people, but the fact that you come out and blatantly make broad-based statements against Conservatives makes you just as big of a prick as those you call pricks.

[quote]3 words: STUPID WHITE PEOPLE/quote] How about 3 more: STUPID IGNORANT ISIL. All anyone has to do to see though the mighty transparent ignorance is note the glaring light of hatred shining through.

Let me ask you a question Isil. Do you think that terrorism is a legitimate threat? Firstly, there is such thing as one big enemy. The enemy is terrorism itself. I do understand that the word '"terrorism" is a catch-all, but it is meant to be. Understand that. Nobody is claiming that we can defeat the Islamofascist terrorists with one fell swoop. Understand that. And no, I'm not ignorant, I don't believe that we can defeat every single person that we decide to label a 'terrorist'.

It's the same for the hopeless attempt on getting rid of Terrorism. Mainly Al Quaida. Firstly, there isn't such thing as one big enemy. It's seperate muslim cells, operating without help from Al Quaida, not even in the name of Al Quaida. Thinking you can erase all these seperate cells is rather naïve.

You obviously did not read this: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/17/al.zarqawi.statement/index.html
Al-Zarqawi's group claimed allegiance to Al-Qaeda (that is how it is spelled by the way). They WERE a separate 'entity'. Were. There is no hope for getting rid of it, all we can do is defeat it where we find it, and keep current on murdering every single person who attempts to do harm to Americans simply because they are Americans.

The War on Iraq, American soldiers getting slain, Iraqi troops (most of them analphabetic people manipulated by their leaders) getting slain, Iraqi Civilians getting murdered by both fractions, reckless Foreign people getting kidnapped. Did the situation improve after Saddam was defeated? I'm not sure you know.. Well, at least America managed to capture one of the world's last Oil resources ;) In the end, that's the whole part of that war right?

It's the war IN Iraq, not ON Iraq. And I noticed how you called it "one of the world's last oil resources", but it is hardly one of the last. Where you came up with that giant misstatement is beyond comprehension.

Did the situation improve after Saddam was defeated

Saddam was defeated from day one. I think you meant to say "after Saddam was captured".

We need a PC vs. Kerry debate.

[QUOTE=Malevolent_Jester]We need a PC vs. Kerry debate.[/QUOTE]
I'd vote for my PC, it's smarter.

You have got to be the most mindless Moore-drone i have seen yet. I would consider myself to be a Libertarian, so i'm outside of this Bush vs. Kerry stuff.. but i certainly know pathetic when i see it

It is amazing and a matter of record that when the US first invaded Baghdad the first and only building they secured for more than a week was the Oil Ministery - make of that what you will, protecting Iraq's assets? or securing the US investment?

I don't believe in party politics of any kind, it tends to be devisive at best, people need to wake up to a new system and break free from the quagmire of the current systems (applicable in many Western countries). So also count me firmly in the Libertarian ranks.

To tear a strip out of someone for dislking bigots and their actions seems a little strange. Just because Michael Moore has raised the hackles of many of his fellow Americans, I think what bothers most people is not his numerous inncuracies/untruths/misrepresentation it is his unequivocal and unswerving desire to uncover the farce in politcs and institutions. You don't have to like him or his message, but to discount the sub-text of his arguements is missing the whole point.

giving the average american credit for finding the subtext of any argument is being rather generous most won't see past counting his inaccuracies as truth and will consider those things fact because they appeared in a "documentary".

chris

[QUOTE=malibu]I'd vote for my PC, it's smarter.[/QUOTE]

Considering it's a PC, I'd give Kerry the reliability edge.

mattboy_slim]And what makes you so different? They are homo-hating, and you are Conservative-hating. You may think that you are special, and deserving of praise simply because you don't hate gay people, but the fact that you come out and blatantly make broad-based statements against Conservatives makes you just as big of a prick as those you call pricks.[/quote]

Conservatives have plans which bother me, homos haven't said:

3 words: STUPID WHITE PEOPLE/quote] How about 3 more: STUPID IGNORANT ISIL. All anyone has to do to see though the mighty transparent ignorance is note the glaring light of hatred shining through.

Let me ask you a question Isil. Do you think that terrorism is a legitimate threat? Firstly, there is such thing as one big enemy. The enemy is terrorism itself. I do understand that the word '"terrorism" is a catch-all, but it is meant to be. Understand that. Nobody is claiming that we can defeat the Islamofascist terrorists with one fell swoop. Understand that. And no, I'm not ignorant, I don't believe that we can defeat every single person that we decide to label a 'terrorist'.

There is another enemy. Although not really an enemy it's certainly a great power in this world: America. Ofcourse the U.S. haven't got plans to attack us with suicide commando's and bomb squads I still think it's important to get the U.S. a decent leader who tries to adapt the U.S. to the rest of the world instead of forcing the rest of the world to cooperate/accept what the U.S. wants :>

mattboy_slim]You obviously did not read this: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/17/al.zarqawi.statement/index.html
Al-Zarqawi's group claimed allegiance to Al-Qaeda (that is how it is spelled by the way). They WERE a separate 'entity'. Were. There is no hope for getting rid of it, all we can do is defeat it where we find it, and keep current on murdering every single person who attempts to do harm to Americans simply because they are Americans. [/quote]

Defending your country, killing everyone who is harming Americans because they are Americans. Seems like a good plan. But I don't think rushing into the Middle-East with a giant military force without having a decent plan (there is a plan, by for not suitable enough for the current situation in the Middle-East (Iraq), evidence: turn the news channel on, wait for the messages of today's murdered soldiers) for building up the country is such a good plan said:

It's the war IN Iraq, not ON Iraq. And I noticed how you called it "one of the world's last oil resources", but it is hardly one of the last. Where you came up with that giant misstatement is beyond comprehension.
Saddam was defeated from day one. I think you meant to say "after Saddam was captured".

You noticed? Well, it is one of the last great oil resources. I haven't got time to dig up some statistics at the moment but I'll try to find some later in the evening/tomorrow.

I'm sorry, since I don't speak English as my primary Language I do happen to make some typos.

[QUOTE=Nostalgia]You have got to be the most mindless Moore-drone i have seen yet. I would consider myself to be a Libertarian, so i'm outside of this Bush vs. Kerry stuff.. but i certainly know pathetic when i see it.

Nos.[/QUOTE]


Thanks :>