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Mar 3rd 2004#144208 Report
Member since: Dec 4th 2001
Posts: 171
Well he already paid for the flyer design. Another graphic design place I think will be doing the changes for him on the flyer. But I don't know if they will also use alot of these images on their site as I had to trace out the backgrounds out of like 30+ pictures.

I just wanted to see what some of you did with stuff like this. I think if he wants it, I will charge him for the PSD. All he wanted and paid me for was the
AD, and never said any mention about the PSD at all.
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Mar 3rd 2004#144211 Report
Member since: Mar 25th 2002
Posts: 1143
"I always give the .psd's. They paid for it and the copyrights so it should be theirs"

What planet are you on Pank? Perhaps you need to look at copyright law more carefully, you still remain the copyright holder. If clients want my source files, be they Flash or Photoshop or Illustrator source files, they pay a premium. At present it is 100% but I have recently considered putting it up 150%.

Perhaps you already equate the cost of source files in, but if you don't it is plain crazy to devalue your work and by inference other designers. It is almost the equivalent to the recent trend of designing on spec. Neither benefits the designer or their work in the long run.
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Mar 3rd 2004#144212 Report
Member since: Mar 24th 2002
Posts: 3114
flatten the layers and give it to him. :D

(you're incredibly stupid, paavo)

Yes.
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Mar 3rd 2004#144213 Report
Member since: Dec 4th 2001
Posts: 171
LOL! Thats what my friend told me to do Paavo!
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Mar 3rd 2004#144218 Report
Member since: Nov 14th 2001
Posts: 1297
Look, if the guy could scratch your back somewhere down the road, cooperate with him and the new graphics agency. Might get some new clientele, or a job sometime in the future.

If they are an overwhelmingly large pain in the ass, you can reciprocate.

i.e. if someone screws with you the wrong way, professionally, then asks for a favor, like a .psd, You can always: rasterize the type, don't include fonts, give them a HUGE file, send them an RGB when they want a CMYK, put something on a JAZ when they clearly don't have a JAZ drive, or, in most cases, I just put it off and make them call me a few dozen times.

It doesn't do much damage, but it makes you feel powerful and evil. kinda fun.
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Mar 3rd 2004#144219 Report
Member since: Feb 17th 2003
Posts: 2450
lol @ paavo - didn't see that one coming...yeah - there's a thought....but merging the layers? isn't that kinda like...profanation?? I dunno...

lol@graphicsguy also for the Jazz ...jazz

- yeah I guess it all comes down to the contract in the end...but I'd stay away from a contract that requires me to surrender my psd-s.... I'm kinda - you know ...My prrrrecious....mine!.... My own! :D
give my babies away??
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Mar 4th 2004#144239 Report
Member since: Mar 25th 2002
Posts: 1143
Its not about back scratching it's about people wanting something for nothing.

"I would like to buy the sony walkman from you, but before I do so, I would like schematics and patent rights" - can't say I hear that often.
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Mar 4th 2004#144243 Report
Member since: Aug 10th 2001
Posts: 793
I always give the .psd (in fact I give evrything includinf original photos, sketch) the work belong to him and im fine with it.

But its always better to kepp a copy, so if he request some changes you can do it quikly. And starting a war with a client is never a good idea.

If you did a good job for him why would he choose another designer?

But the thing to remember is to have a good contract at the beginnig... it just make thig easier...

"I would like to buy the sony walkman from you, but before I do so, I would like schematics and patent rights"


The situation here is not the same at all...
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Mar 4th 2004#144246 Report
Member since: Mar 25th 2002
Posts: 1143
What people and yourself don't seem to appreciate is that the work does not belong to him Delisk, it belongs to you.
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Mar 4th 2004#144247 Report
Member since: Mar 24th 2002
Posts: 3114
but merging the layers? isn't that kinda like...profanation??


How would it be?
I mean...
Everyone works in different ways. If the contract doesn't say "the designer is to hand over a PSD file with all elements on their own layers and textlayers with non-rasterized type-information etc etc"
If they only say "hey...uhm...could we have the photoshop file too? You know...just in case". Pfff, flatten it and give it to them. At least it's not compressed, or something. :D If they start giving sh*t about it, one can always say that "this is the way I work, I merge my layers when I'm happy about them". And in fact, I do that quite often, just to clear the layer palette from tens/hundreds of layers.
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