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iPod Mini: Failure.

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Jan 8th 2004#136643 Report
Member since: Sep 16th 2002
Posts: 1876
Hmm... portable mp3 player market? Well, guess what, that's what the iPod already covered. It's portable, and it's an mp3 player. Yes, it's bigger than most other mp3 players made by Rio and Sony... however, it's still small enough. It'll fit in your pocket, it feels fine on your belt.

The "smaller" iPod Mini is only marginally smaller. Since, generally, like people said before me users don't know gigabyte... however, they still have common sense. I'm sure anyone can see that for $50 you can get A LOT more, even though they'll have no use for it, they'll get it. You get can more than 300% more of your original value for only 20% of the original price.

The people I know that own iPods have upwards of 10GB of songs, they download everyday and upload to their iPod everydau. They're hardcore. These are also the types of people that won't go for the Mini.

So there you go, two kinds of people, together covering most of the market; in my opinion, these people will not buy the Mini.

Sure, Apple will has marketing strategies. Sure, if they lower the price people will go for the Mini. However, as it is now, the iPod Mini seems like a failure.
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Jan 8th 2004#136653 Report
Member since: Sep 7th 2002
Posts: 928
well, like i think dek mentioned they have the cute factor. Ive already heard people thinking about buying them because they would match with thier pimpin airforce ones.
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Jan 8th 2004#136691 Report
Member since: Oct 6th 2002
Posts: 1003
Originally posted by Graphicsguy (*RE: My statement above)
Or, it's a portable music player that holds all my contacts, calendars, a ton of music and acts as a really fast hard drive for me to take files as large as billboards home with me to work on - in my pocket.

Yes, to hose who know what they're doing, which may or may not be more than 50 percent of the MP3 player buying market, however, for those like Deker's sister-in-law, and the 2 people I know, it very much is an image item, and it's because of this that I think that the iPod, despite it's clear deficiencies compared to the standard iPod, will sell.

On the opther hand, who remembers the thread posted a loooong time ago, regarding the first computer virus, called "goodtimes" and how that realated to the lack of popularity for macintosh computers. The gist of the article was that for those that aren't computer savvy, they would often listen to people like us, who 'are' when purchasing things like iPods, that WE would not buy, and thus give them a bad review of a product, that may very well be fine for them, such as a Mini iPod, vs. a standard. For those, that do not have a large music collection, ubt want only to have a few songs at easy disposal, and have an image item such as an iPod, would be prone to buy an iPod mini, wheras those who are perhaps slightly less computer savvy than say, us, but do also have a lot of music, and know how to port that onto an iPod should thus by all means buy a standard iPod. All others though, should, when confronted with the idea, buy an iPod Mini.

PS. Does anyone remember the article that I'm talking about?

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Jan 8th 2004#136716 Report
Member since: May 1st 2002
Posts: 3034
keep in mind too, that the ipod mini, has has usb2, and fire wire, so you don't need to buy anything extra, it also has cool headphones AND a dock.. the dock alone saves you another 40 dollars and the fire wire -> usb cable saves 20, so right off buy getting the ipod-mini your saving about 100 dollars, and I don'tknow if the 15gb ipod has the new in ear headphones... if not then you save about 140.. certainly something I would be very much interested in.
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Jan 8th 2004#136720 Report
Member since: Sep 7th 2002
Posts: 928
the docks extra on the mini
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Jan 8th 2004#136721 Report
Member since: May 1st 2002
Posts: 3034
I thought steve said it came withit :\...maybe I listened wrong :D but atleast it comes with a cool belt clip! and the usb2 cable :]
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Jan 8th 2004#136723 Report
Member since: Nov 14th 2001
Posts: 1297
I think what you're trying to say, pganguly, is that the mini iPod will be popular only for rich, clueless teenagers who listen exclusively to top 40 and wear what MTV tells them to.
Tech-savvy people will buy the 15GB iPod or a cheaper PC-based music player.

fair enough. I'm down. Sorry for any confusion.
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Jan 8th 2004#136724 Report
Member since: Aug 9th 2001
Posts: 2333
I dont know why so many Apple haters only hate Apple because of their appearance. Their products not only look fantastic and what's inside is normally pretty good too. I think apple relies a lot on image, its a major selling point. How many rap music videos or tv series or movies have you seen an iPod or cinema screen? Ive lost count!

Image is all important..why buy a bunch of dead roses when you can have fresh ones?
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Jan 8th 2004#136727 Report
Member since: Aug 28th 2001
Posts: 970
I don't know of that many people who dislike apple because of their appearance. Its usually for all the other reasons that have been mentioned in all the pc vs apple threads.
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Jan 8th 2004#136734 Report
Member since: Mar 24th 2002
Posts: 3114
I'm starting to dislike the iPod. I can't go to one forum without there being 89723498273 threads about those little bastards. It's a f*cking MP3 player!
(I have a 20gb iPod in case you were wondering)

Also, I'm tired of the fact that every time people talk about apple's products the first being said is how pretty they are. ffs, paint a picture and hang it on your forehead! (wasn't that a bit radical now, paavo?) ... :p

I'm starting to see Apple like I see [enter something trendy here]. It's all about the image and popularity. It takes so much away from the real issues, like GOOD CONTENT. Darnit, billyjoel! *spits on the wall*
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