Any good beginner PHP books...

Bloated and buggy. No mozilla for me. Or netscape.

Bah, then you cant read it. haha! Suffer you Opera only using browser trophy maker! (jking hehe!)
But why not just have those browsers available in times of need like this? I never use Mozilla or Opera, but They are conveniently located on my toolbar....

I have them all installed... I just don't want to open them to look at a site because the designers are too lazy to make it work in every browser.

Maybe the browser designers should collaborate a bit and standardize code? Bah!

They do. Which is why there is no reason that a site should not work in all the browsers.

Originally posted by deker
phpfreaks is almost unusable in opera. :( You can't even read the text or anything.

You should check your Opera. I just browsed the entire site and everything is absolutely readable.

I have Opera 7 on mine and it looks pretty messed up. It is readable, but the site is all deformed.
Deker - I realise there is a w3c standard, but each browser seems to have its own unique behaviors with a few things, like layers for instance. I used that code that Pank has on his site with a scroller - his news box.(JS and Css layers.) and it doesnt even show up on Opera, shifts a little on Mozilla, and looks fine in IE.

Holy Crap MBB, where did you come from?

http://www.phpfreaks.com/tutorial_index.php

that is the page where the text disappears.

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