For the Grafix Card wars....

Go for the Radeon 9500 Pro, or the 9600 Pro when it comes out. That'll cost you around $200.

9800 :P

7500 any good?

Originally posted by ezstud
7500 any good?

NO!

Did i ever mention that the [H]ard pre-fabricated their p4 results. (Basically, they lied?) You can't trust [H]ard anymore. just go to anandtech and tom's. As for the 4200 sucking at ut2k3, it is mostly true. Though i have hit around 120 fps, 60 fps in heavy gameplay. I might add though, that my 4200 IS overclocked to the speeds of the stock 4600, so that increased my fps by about 10-20.

In 3dMark2003, the scores for any geforce 4 cards are not comparable to those of the 9500 and above. The benchmark is very synthetic, and based on the card capabilities. It is built for Direct X 9 based cards. That is why ALL direct x 8 cards, i.e. geforce 4 and below have scored like **** in 2003. But it really depends on the person tweaking the card and not the card capability by itself. Some guys can brag about their 9700 hitting 13,000+ on 3dmark2001. Well, i can tell you, big friggin deal. I've seen a stock 4600 hit OVER 15,000 at stock core and memory frequencies. Also, the Geforce FX beats the 9700 in many tests, as well as the 9800. It was just released too late, too ugly, and too noisy.

So whenever you hear about a 9700 outperforming a geforce 4 in 3dmark2003, well it damn well better, because it's supposed to.

NVidia is into OpenGL, which isnt well supported anymore. That is one reason why Radeon cards are doing so well in the gaming arena. I get tired of searching for 3rd party OpenGL patches jsut so I can play a game with my card.

I still love my GeForce 2 card. I can't remember the exact name of it, but it's a Creative one, mmm...

my pick: http://www.edharriss.com/review/geforce4_review.html

i have yet to hear enough good things about the newer ati cards to convince me they're worth the cash...

chris

One reason is (if you are a gamer mind you....) NVidia is a big supporter of OpenGL. OpenGL hasnt had the best support for games, so 3rd party individuals have had to fix OpenGL drivers for many games so that your NVidia Card runs smoother. I remember when it wasnt a big deal, but it seems fewer designers care about OpenGL so ATI cards run better for games.

I have heard the New GeForceFX(?) card is crap compared to the Radeon 9700. Its bulky - requires a huge (and noisy) heat sink fan, and also isnt much of an improvement from their 4200's.
Now I am kind of thinking of the gaming end. Dont know where ratings occur for grafix.

I used to think NVidia was the bomb back when the GeForce 2 was newer.

So if I were to spend a few hundred on a card I would get an ATI.

Originally posted by redeye



what settings are you running there? heh. with my crappy gforce 2 mx400 i was running unreal smooth at 800x600.

800x600 w/ max on all video settings