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using grayscale image to blur another image

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Jun 23rd 2005#168929 Report
Member since: Jun 23rd 2005
Posts: 3
ive got these two images:




and i need to use the second one as a depth-of-field blur thing to blur the first colour image. ive gone through help and it says you can, but as far as i could tell it didnt tell you how :-?

also searched the forum

any help is appreciated
thanx
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Jun 23rd 2005#168937 Report
Member since: Mar 18th 2001
Posts: 1604
hmm...when i fake depth of field i usually use two layers, one blurred and one not, and mask between them. this is different though, and an interesting idea...let me play with it.

question though, how'd you generate the grayscale image?

chris
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Jun 23rd 2005#168938 Report
Member since: Mar 18th 2001
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ok, it looks like this can be done with the "lens blur" filter by applying the grayscale image in an alpha channel...not sure of the settings but give it a shot and post some results

chris
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Jun 23rd 2005#168940 Report
Member since: Apr 25th 2003
Posts: 1977
Why not just dupplicate the layer, add a mask, guassian blur and then paste the grayscale into the mask?
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Jun 24th 2005#168965 Report
Member since: Feb 20th 2004
Posts: 187
Supposedly lens blur works better. It does have the interesting effect of bluring with iris shapes.
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Jun 26th 2005#168990 Report
Member since: Jun 23rd 2005
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ok, ive figured out how to do it. i just copied the grayscale onto a new channel in the colour image, then used the chnnel's selection to do a simple gaussian blur. i prefer this over a lens blur myself... so thanx for the ideas, couldnt have done it without you guys

in reply to how i got the grayscale itself, i used a 3d modeling program to model and render it, and it just so happens that it can render depth of field images too. it makes no sense that it cant use it directly with the render...

modeling program: anim8or ( www.anim8or.com )

thanx guys :D
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Jun 26th 2005#168998 Report
Member since: Dec 20th 2003
Posts: 192
Rodder, because lens blur will vary the strenght of the blur based on the greyscale map, while a gaussian blur would be uniform, and only be masked by the blur. You could acheive what you want by loading the greyscale, then applying several times a very slight blur, each time increasing the selection area.
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Jun 27th 2005#169008 Report
Member since: Jun 23rd 2005
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well in the end, i applied it to another image i had, i like it better.

used gaussian blur instead of lens blur. also some glow



what do you guys think?
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