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Aug 21st 2001#13948 Report
Member since: Mar 24th 2001
Posts: 3734
OK, I try a new file: 8.5 x 11 inches at 300 dpi.

But the actual image size is like 3 times that. If all else fails, I guess I'll just do it in PageMaker or Publisher, but I wanted to draw out the basic idea in PS for ease. I've never used Pagemaker, so I'm not looking forward to jumping right in to that.

But if you know what's going on, please let me know.

Thanks,
Matt
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Aug 21st 2001#13951 Report
Member since: May 24th 2001
Posts: 358
8.5 x 11 inches will print at 8.5 x 11

At 300 dpi it will look huge on your monitor. Freaking monster huge.
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Aug 21st 2001#13953 Report
Member since: Mar 24th 2001
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K, thanks. That's reassuring. I've never done anything for print before. I was getting really pissed off.

Jeezus, you think that's big, i DID have it at 600............sheesh. I can't work like that....
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Aug 22nd 2001#14007 Report
Member since: Mar 27th 2001
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MAtt,

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then you can be confident it is what you want it to be.....
and yeah they will look huge on your monitor the higher the dpi the larger onscreen it will appear.
Why: because your monitor will only display 72 ppi

and you can do what you want to BUT....

EVERYTIME I go to a high school or college to speak on digital pre-press one of the first thing I get across is:

Use an image editor (PS) to resize Images..... sure pagemaker or whatever will resize it, but it isn't an image editor and you don't really know what it is doing to the photo/image.
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Aug 22nd 2001#14043 Report
Member since: Mar 18th 2001
Posts: 1501
Torn...

Scott Kelby has some info that you may want to rethink regarding resizing screen captures in Pagemaker or QuarkXPress:

Quoted from Photoshop 6.0 Down & Dirty Tricks:

Using Screen captures in print

Screen captures are low resolution by default, but you see us using them here in the book, and you've seen them in magazines, books, software packaging, and a host of other places in print. So what's the trick of getting enough resolution to go to press at 200–line screen? It's simple—make the screen captures much smaller when you import them into your page layout application (at least 50% smaller). That's the whole trick—shrink 'em. Not in Photoshop, in your page layout application (if you try to shrink them in Photoshop, believe it or not, they'll get fuzzy. Even if you reduce them just 5%, instant fuzz. You HAVE to do it in your page layout application.)
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Aug 22nd 2001#14054 Report
Member since: Mar 24th 2001
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Well what one of the guys at work told me, is that when you insert a picture into your Publisher document, DO NOT actually insert the image into it, have it LINK to the photo. Especially if you are actually going to print it.

He didn't tell me why. He just told me to do it.
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Aug 22nd 2001#14058 Report
Member since: Mar 27th 2001
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U,
I wasn't aware we were talking about "screen captures". However.... I haven't ever had any real problems resizing screen caps in photoshop. I have found applying just a tad of blur "before" downsizing screen caps in PS produces very nice results for printing...

I'm not saying resizing in the layout application won't work...I just aint gonna go telling all the students I come in contact with to do it... there is anough laziness in the world.

Also...if a screen shot is 72 DPI...reducing it to 50% results in an image with 144 DPI... NOT NEAR enough resolution to go to press at 200 lpi

matt,

I also prefer people NOT embed photos in the page layout.... linking is much cleaner...and faster to rip.
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Aug 22nd 2001#14169 Report
Member since: Mar 27th 2001
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update:

I had a little time to kill today and remembering U's post I did a test run on the same screen cap...

One resized traditionally in PS
and
One resized in the page layout application (QuarkXPress)

The cap resized in the layout program, much to my surprize, was indeed a little sharper and crisper coming off the press.

That said: Utopian, I do intend to add a little blurb in my presentation dealing with this.
I've never been unhappy with the results I was getting resizing in PS... but the other is most definitely better.
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