how to make a logo

hiya,

im currently working on a design for my first portfolio (cloud9legend.net), BUT i really suck at logos.
so i was like wondering how in the name of god u guys make sexy logos like these two examples:

http://www.riptidestudios.net/images/portfolio/logos/fusiun.gif
http://www.sfd2.de/ccg2/design/banner.jpg (the one over "CramerGraphix".. not the whole banner...)

anyone? :eek:

Do you mean how do you actually get the logo on the computer, or how you can get inspiration for cool logos?
If you can draw...just sketch out a cool looking design, then scan it in and trace it.

spend some time looking at different logos and practice making a bunch of your own. I've got a folder where I keep cool logos I rip out of magazines so I can use them for inspiration later if I need to. Something like that might help you out. As far as going on your own ... custom shape + good font + nice colors = logo.

Those both were drawn with the pen tool which is what I'd recommend you do for your logo so that you have it as a vector. That way you can resize the logo for whatever application you need it for.

ok.. but i dont know where to start. making a logo with the pen tool sounds impossible to me. since i hardly use it.. and i cant draw either

Well there aren't very many more options unless you use a Logo Creator program. And then your logo will look terribly stupid. You have to just sketch ideas and shapes. Hundreds of them. On paper. Then when you refine it you can do it on the computer. Learn the pen tool, learn to draw. Kind of hard to be a designer without those two basic skills. You don't even have to be able to draw, just sketch ideas, no matter how rough they are.