Doing a t-shirt

Hey mates!

I have look around the web a lot and seen a lot of really nice t-shirts made by designer like me, maybe a lot better. So I decided that I have to do some nice t-shirts for my self, I think they are mostly made by Illustrator. I now the basics of that program and can do a simple illustration but I want to get better really better. So I asking you if you know some Tutorials on the web, they are really hard to find. I have test to search for them but I only get basic Illustrator tutorials not how to do some cool t-shirt graphic like those on http://www.threadless.com/ . If you don’t know any tutorials are there any books you can recommend.

REALLY THANKS FOR YOUR HELP MATES!

Not much help, but I always thought the font "billo" would look cool on a t-shirt. It's at www.dafont.com I think...

I'm really crap at vector programs too...
But when I read about the contest on threadless, they said that you can send the designs as a .jpg...or was it tiff but anyway...
They could do T-shirts of those too if they where in 300 DPI...
So I guess it work that way too...
I would really want to make a t-shirt too...
Have been designing a few...but my problem is to find a cheap place to print them out on t-shirts :(

Originally posted by Censured
Have been designing a few...but my problem is to find a cheap place to print them out on t-shirts :(

I guess I am lucky, my best friend's brother-in-law does t-shirt printing. He will print me black & white for $2 and colored for $8-$15 depending on how much. I am gonna try to design a sweet one.

Oki guys thanks for you help, this is what I came up whit, I did read a lot of stuff and this one toke me a wile but dam I like it : ) its my first attempt to do serious illustrator design, and please ignore the text. This is not a t-shirt for sale that will have any kind of msg. So what do you think?

http://www.conraddesign.org/firstone.jpg