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Dec 10th 2002#81699 Report
Member since: Dec 4th 2002
Posts: 8
I'm in the process of cropping 5000 family pictures. They were all scanned on a flatbed with about 4 pictures per scan. I've realized that the cropped pictures are much larger in size than their original counterparts.

For example 45 of the original scans are 27MB in size, while those same pictures cropped (157 of them) are 156MB in size.

My action automatically saves the images at the maximum JPEG quality of 12. I'm wondering what the lowest i can lower the quality to is, while preserving the original scan quality of 300DPI?

Thanks!

L
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Dec 10th 2002#81724 Report
Member since: Nov 26th 2001
Posts: 2586
jpg's wont save at 300dpi.... You'll need to save as a .tiff or something of that quality, so, layers and physical size will make for larger files. If you crop them to the size you need and no more, flattened, then you are about file saved as you can get at 300dpi.
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Dec 10th 2002#81726 Report
Member since: Dec 4th 2002
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marble,

i just looked at the image properties of both the original scans and the cropped versions that i've been saving at maximum JPEG quality.. photoshop tells me that they are both 300DPI.. how could this be off?
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Dec 10th 2002#81728 Report
Member since: Oct 9th 2001
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Dec 10th 2002#81753 Report
Member since: Nov 26th 2001
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Sorry about the mislead, I was confusing myself. tiffs dont compress the images, but jpg's do, so if you want the best resolution use a tiff image. If you take a jpg image, like 60% and re save it again as a jpg at 100% it will grow in file size. That might be where you are having the problem. One solution would be to make a new action and save them at a lesser quality.
How big are the pictures?
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Dec 10th 2002#81762 Report
Member since: Dec 4th 2002
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Hrmmm. The cropped pictures are anywhere from 800kb - 900kb in size. When I go to specify the quality, I zoom into the picture and notice that any quality below 12 causes pixelization. I want to preserve these pictures in as high a quality as I can, even if they are JPEGS. How can I keep these at the quality they are, without making my project 4x bigger than what i started with?
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Dec 10th 2002#81764 Report
Member since: Nov 26th 2001
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Tiffs or photoshop format will be the only way to keep them without adding any compression. Tiffs are best because they will load into any graphics program. But I would probably save them as PS if I were planning on doing more work to them.

So how big are the pictures? Because 150mb seems kind of large for one photo. Maybe make them smaller? Are you thinking of keeping them so you can print them later?
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Dec 10th 2002#81766 Report
Member since: Sep 4th 2001
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If I was saving off large amounts of family photos and didn't want any compression, I would save as PNG format. PNG is lossless and compresses somewhat, certainly better file sizes than TIFF and BMP can give you.

JPEG compression on a large 300ppi image should be fine. I would save at 80% quality. JPEG Artifacting on large images isn't as noticable as it is on smaller, web-size images.
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Dec 10th 2002#81787 Report
Member since: Aug 10th 2001
Posts: 793
Try this trick...

Save you image as psd (the acrobat format), when you get the compression dialog choose Zip ratrher than jpg.

You will get a compression similar to the one of jpg in file size, but you will not lost image quality!!!!

You can save tham as Tiff or eps, than use winzip to compress tham with out losing quality. You can also group many of them in one .zip so group related photos wixh also help to manage them!
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