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Mar 20th 2002#36661 Report
Member since: Mar 18th 2001
Posts: 1452
Think Innovative

Ok, so our church just built a new Christian bookstore a few months ago. It's owned by the church, but "run" by different people that they hired.

So the people running it went to this company, to get them to design a website for the bookstore. Here is the link to site they designed:

http://test.crossroadsbookstore.com

Now, here's links to some other sites they've done:

http://www.armor4u.com
http://www.cschristian.com

Notice anything? :rolleyes: And I bet they paid a bundle too.
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Mar 20th 2002#36670 Report
Member since: Jan 19th 2002
Posts: 800
oh my god

thats not even a layout rip, that is the SAME SITE. i know the person who made one made all of them so its not a "rip" but still, this is the biggest scandal since whitewater! (yes, i know i skipped enron, enron sucks)
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Mar 20th 2002#36672 Report
Member since: Mar 18th 2001
Posts: 1452
And if anyone wants a better look:

http://www.christumcmobile.com/temp/innovative.jpg
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Mar 20th 2002#36673 Report
Member since: Jan 19th 2002
Posts: 800
man that is the most unbelievable thing ive seen in a long time..how can you sell somebody a site that not 1 but 2 other people have?! man did you send an email to the site admins telling them about this? obviously this web design company doesnt have a portfolio..
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Mar 20th 2002#36674 Report
Member since: Sep 6th 2001
Posts: 3893
man that is terrible....i mean if one site rips off another, i guess that can pass you know it could be coinsidental but i mean to rip off of a site that has been ripped 2 times already...thats pathedic....

(and yes i suck at spelling....if i even spelled anything wrong...:rolleyes: )
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Mar 20th 2002#36683 Report
Member since: Mar 20th 2001
Posts: 3367
They should have contacted Deker or Torn or someone from in here..

Three sites with the same layout and the every same everything except color....

Fusion : its spelled as pathetic .. and coincidental :p
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Mar 20th 2002#36686 Report
Member since: Mar 18th 2001
Posts: 1452
Just to clarify, there's no ripping going on here.

Think Innovative actually designed the layout. But they're recycling it over and over and over. Nothing "innovative" about it.

I've let my mom know, which she basically runs the church, but she has no say really over what the people at the bookstore decide to do. She thought it from the beginning (about it being a generic template), because on our bookstore's site, there's nothing about our church. She's going to talk to some of the other people at the church tomorrow, but as I said, the church and the bookstore are really 2 seperate entities, run seperately.

So anyway, I went to the company's site to do a little looking around, and that's when I found some of their "sample sites" they've done. So when someone comes to them, all they do is change the logo, change the business name wherever it applies throughout the site, and then probably charge an arm and a leg.

My mom's not even sure anything for sale on that site is actually being sold at the bookstore, since everything for sale, is the same exact stuff for sale on all the other websites. I mean, page per page, per page...with the minor differences to coincide with the business the site is for.
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Mar 20th 2002#36692 Report
Member since: Mar 20th 2001
Posts: 3367
maybe this is why :

"Learn how leading Christian retailers are using Signature Websites to connect more customers with shopping, ministry and personalized store information..."

Signature websites = Generic Templates
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Mar 20th 2002#36706 Report
Member since: Jan 19th 2002
Posts: 800
it wouldnt be as bad if they were maybe just selling a design template, but when you sell more than 1 person the samwebsite- content and all...i cant see how anyone would pay for that if they knew thats what was happening.
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Mar 20th 2002#36711 Report
Member since: Mar 18th 2001
Posts: 6632
They're probably just using something like www.oscommerce.com and then slap a logo on it and be done with it. Then charge them $10,000.
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