a question for discussion... (political)

[QUOTE=FlackBait]What I find interesting is that we can compare someone’s attack on someone based on 4 years of living under their administration to an attack on someone’s life that they were never involved with. Bush wasn't serving with him in the service...[/QUOTE]

again, not the least bit relevant. Kerry has complained that an organization with potential connections to the republican party has been creating ads that attack him. MoveOn, with very clear connections to the democractic party, has been doing the same thing for several years. i'm not asking if the content is fair, i'm not asking if you think they should do it, i'm not asking if you've seen the ads. i'm asking how Kerry can complain when his party has been involved in something very similar for a while.

chris

[QUOTE=Fig]again, not the least bit relevant. Kerry has complained that an organization with potential connections to the republican party has been creating ads that attack him. MoveOn, with very clear connections to the democractic party, has been doing the same thing for several years. i'm not asking if the content is fair, i'm not asking if you think they should do it, i'm not asking if you've seen the ads. i'm asking how Kerry can complain when his party has been involved in something very similar for a while.

chris[/QUOTE]

But does Moveon.org really have very clear connections to the democratic party? In 1998 they opposed Clinton who was a democrat. Moveon.org launched a petition to "Censure President Clinton and Move On to Pressing Issues Facing the Nation."

I think both are skating on thin ice but Kerry I think has a reason to make complains against an organization that has seemed to pop up and to do nothing but oppose him. I think both are playing dirty though.

i know that Kerry hired a former director of MoveOn as his campaign director for online communications.

and just found this, assuming its accurate:
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=9334&catcode=13

chris

I think he’s merely guilty by association. Until there’s proof that Kerry controls or coordinates with MoveOn.Org, people are going to have to accept that Zach Exley was the campaign director for online communications for them. I mean come on he was also involved with Dean’s campaign web based organization. The guys qualified.

He certainly doesn’t hold the flag for MoveOn.Org which I think is important to recognize. In your article it quotes Peter Schurman as saying their goal was to get Kerry elected. Well if you look at the structure of MoveOn.Org you’ll see there are 2 million members that decide on two topics to poor their recourses into. The presidential election is a big topic. But overall I don’t think Kerry or MoveOn.org is connected to each other how the Republicans want them to be. Thats just my two cents.

So you'll freely believe (ignoring accurate references) that MoveOn.org is connected to Kerry, but also freely believe that the Swift Boat Vets are connected to Bush? Do you think the 'guilt by assocation' does not apply to the lawyer for the Swift Boat Vets / Bush?

EDIT:
Whoah, I missed this:

The fact that people get too comfortable with how things are means other people suffer.

How does that comment even make sense? Seriously, stop and read it again. No, don't keep reading, go back and read that again. Just because somebody is confortable, someone else will suffer? You are generalizing WAAAAY too much. Because I am comfortable in the ways that I do things, someone else is suffering? Give me some examples and we'll argue that, but you can't come out and make statements like that without sounding like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Conservatives seem stuck in their ways because we like the way it is, we don't think we need more more more, we don't think that we as a people need to change, we think that things right now are just fine as they are.

Under the best leadership in the world things aren’t ever fine just the way they are. You don’t live anywhere near a diverse community I can tell.

So you'll freely believe (ignoring accurate references) that MoveOn.org is connected to Kerry, but also freely believe that the Swift Boat Vets are connected to Bush? Do you think the 'guilt by assocation' does not apply to the lawyer for the Swift Boat Vets / Bush?

I missed the link showing Swift Boat Vets record for opposing other canidates other than Kerry...