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Apr 2nd 2004 | #147006 Report |
Member since: Jan 14th 2003 Posts: 942 |
- Isn't it hilarious how Kerry voted FOR the PATRIOT Act, and now he opposes it? The Patriot Act was passed nearly unanimously by the Senate 98-1, and 357-66 in the House: [i]“Most of [The Patriot Act] has to do with improving the transfer of information between CIA and FBI, and it has to do with things that really were quite necessary in the wake of what happened on September 11th.” (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Town Hall Meeting, Manchester, NH, 8/6/03).[/i] Not surprisingly, now Kerry wants the act repealed: “We are a nation of laws and liberties, not of a knock in the night. So it is time to end the era of John Ashcroft. That starts with replacing the Patriot Act with a new law that protects our people and our liberties at the same time. I’ve been a District Attorney and I know that what law enforcement needs are real tools not restrictions on American’s basic rights.” (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Iowa State University, Iowa City, IA, 12/1/03) - How he supported the Iraq War and the 87 billion dollars towards the rebuilding process, but now is against it? FOR: “George, I said at the time I would have preferred if we had given diplomacy a greater opportunity, but I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein, and when the President made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him.” (ABC News, Democrat Presidential Candidate Debate, Columbia, SC, 5/4/03) AGAINST: CHRIS MATTHEWS: “Do you think you belong to that category of candidates who more or less are unhappy with this war, the way it’s been fought, along with General Clark, along with Howard Dean and not necessarily in companionship politically on the issue of the war with people like Lieberman, Edwards and Gephardt? Are you one of the anti-war candidates?” KERRY: “I am -- Yes, in the sense that I don’t believe the president took us to war as he should have, yes, absolutely.” (MSNBC’s “Hardball,” 1/6/04) - How he supported the first Gulf war, but now opposes it? AGAINST: [i]‘Thank you for contacting me to express your opposition ... to the early use of military force by the US against Iraq. I share your concerns. On January 11, I voted in favor of a resolution that would have insisted that economic sanctions be given more time to work and against a resolution giving the president the immediate authority to go to war.’ --letter from Senator John Kerry to Wallace Carter of Newton Centre, Massachusetts, dated January 22 [1991] [/i] FOR: [i]‘Thank you very much for contacting me to express your support for the actions of President Bush in response to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. From the outset of the invasion, I have strongly and unequivocally supported President Bush’s response to the crisis and the policy goals he has established with our military deployment in the Persian Gulf.’ --Senator Kerry to Wallace Carter, January 31 [1991]”[/i] I can go on and on, there are mass amounts of issues in which John Kerry has DIRECTLY contradicted himself. Perhaps i'll put afew more out there a little later. How can anyone in their right mind vote for John Kerry come election day? Nos. |
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Apr 2nd 2004 | #147007 Report |
Member since: Mar 25th 2002 Posts: 1143 |
How many guesses do we get at your vote placement? ;) bahh, useless 2 party system anyway;)
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Apr 2nd 2004 | #147009 Report |
Member since: Jan 14th 2003 Posts: 942 |
How is it a two party system? There are HUNDREDS of parties, people simply do not vote for their candidates. It's democracy at it's best. Nos. |
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Apr 2nd 2004 | #147010 Report |
Member since: May 27th 2002 Posts: 1028 |
I tell you what, Kerry is one entertaining fellow. "I actually voted for the $87 billion, before I voted against it."
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Apr 2nd 2004 | #147011 Report |
Member since: Jan 14th 2003 Posts: 942 |
Yeah, exactly. Nos. |
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Apr 2nd 2004 | #147015 Report |
Member since: Aug 28th 2001 Posts: 970 |
[QUOTE=Nostalgia]How is it a two party system? There are HUNDREDS of parties, people simply do not vote for their candidates. It's democracy at it's best. Nos.[/QUOTE] Lets get rid of the winner-take-all electoral system... |
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Apr 2nd 2004 | #147016 Report |
Member since: Apr 20th 2002 Posts: 3000 |
[QUOTE=FlackBait]Lets get rid of the winner-take-all electoral system...[/QUOTE] .. and replace it with an proportionally split ruling system between the various candidates? I think not. |
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Apr 2nd 2004 | #147021 Report |
Member since: Sep 7th 2002 Posts: 928 |
I think im going to vote kerry just to get bush out. Sick of the US fighting other peoples wars. People will always hate you... 2 wars in 3 years is just to much for me. Gooooood byyyye Bush.
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Apr 2nd 2004 | #147027 Report |
Member since: Mar 24th 2001 Posts: 3734 |
You'll have to change the forum to view on full since this template cuts off the right edge of long quotes (if you have the balls to read this**Points at Kerry supporters**). Number 1-6 [quote] Round 3: Flip-Flopped On Patriot Act Kerry Voted For Patriot Act. The Patriot Act was passed nearly unanimously by the Senate 98-1, and 357-66 in the House. (H.R. 3162, CQ Vote #313: Passed 98-1: R 49-0; D 48-1; I 1-0, 10/25/01, Kerry Voted Yea) Kerry Used To Defend His Vote. “Most of [The Patriot Act] has to do with improving the transfer of information between CIA and FBI, and it has to do with things that really were quite necessary in the wake of what happened on September 11th.” (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Town Hall Meeting, Manchester, NH, 8/6/03) Now, Kerry Attacks Patriot Act. “We are a nation of laws and liberties, not of a knock in the night. So it is time to end the era of John Ashcroft. That starts with replacing the Patriot Act with a new law that protects our people and our liberties at the same time. I’ve been a District Attorney and I know that what law enforcement needs are real tools not restrictions on American’s basic rights.” (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Iowa State University, Iowa City, IA, 12/1/03) [/quote] [quote] Round 4: Kerry Took BOTH Sides On First Gulf War Kerry Took BOTH Sides In First Gulf War In Separate Letters To Same Constituent. “Rather than take a side--albeit the one he thought was most expedient--Kerry actually stood on both sides of the first Gulf war, much like he did this time around. Consider this ‘Notebook’ item from TNR’s March 25, 1991 issue, which ran under the headline ‘Same Senator, Same Constituent’: ‘Thank you for contacting me to express your opposition ... to the early use of military force by the US against Iraq. I share your concerns. On January 11, I voted in favor of a resolution that would have insisted that economic sanctions be given more time to work and against a resolution giving the president the immediate authority to go to war.’ --letter from Senator John Kerry to Wallace Carter of Newton Centre, Massachusetts, dated January 22 [1991] ‘Thank you very much for contacting me to express your support for the actions of President Bush in response to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. From the outset of the invasion, I have strongly and unequivocally supported President Bush’s response to the crisis and the policy goals he has established with our military deployment in the Persian Gulf.’ --Senator Kerry to Wallace Carter, January 31 [1991]” (Noam Scheiber, “Noam Scheiber’s Daily Journal of Politics, The New Republic Online, 1/28/04) [/quote] |
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Apr 2nd 2004 | #147028 Report |
Member since: Mar 24th 2001 Posts: 3734 |
Number 7-12: [quote] Round 7: Flip-Flopped On Death Penalty For Terrorists In 1996, Kerry Attacked Governor Bill Weld For Supporting Death Penalty For Terrorists. KERRY: “Your policy would amount to a terrorist protection policy. Mine would put them in jail.” (1996 Massachusetts Senate Debate, 9/16/96) In 1996, Kerry Said, “You Can Change Your Mind On Things, But Not On Life-And-Death Issues.” (Timothy J. Connolly, “The ‘Snoozer’ Had Some Life,” [Worcester, MA] Telegram & Gazette, 7/3/96) But, In 2002, Kerry Said He Supported Death Penalty For Terrorists. KERRY: “The law of the land is the law of the land, but I have also said that I am for the death penalty for terrorists because terrorists have declared war on your country.” (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” 12/1/02) [/quote][quote] Round 8: Flip-Flopped On No Child Left Behind Kerry Voted For No Child Left Behind Act. (H.R. 1, CQ Vote #371: Adopted 87-10: R 44-3; D 43-6; I 0-1, 12/18/01, Kerry Voted Yea) Now Kerry Attacks No Child Left Behind As “Mockery.” “Between now and the time I’m sworn in January 2005, I’m going to use every day to make this president accountable for making a mockery of the words ‘No Child Left Behind.’” (Holly Ramer, “Kerry Wants To Make ‘Environmental Justice’ A Priority,” The Associated Press, 4/22/03) Kerry Trashes NCLB As "Unfunded Mandate" With "Laudable" Goals. “Kerry referred to [No Child Left Behind] as an ‘unfunded mandate’ with ‘laudable’ goals. ‘Without the resources, education reform is a sham,’ Kerry said. ‘I can’t wait to crisscross this country and hold this president accountable for making a mockery of the words "no child left behind."'” (Matt Leon, “Sen. Kerry In Tune With Educators,” The [Quincy, MA] Patriot Ledger, 7/11/03) [/quote] [quote] Round 9: Flip-Flopped On Affirmative Action In 1992, Kerry Called Affirmative Action “Inherently Limited And Divisive.” “[W]hile praising affirmative action as ‘one kind of progress’ that grew out of civil rights court battles, Kerry said the focus on a rights-based agenda has ‘inadvertently driven most of our focus in this country not to the issue of what is happening to the kids who do not get touched by affirmative action, but … toward an inherently limited and divisive program which is called affirmative action.’ That agenda is limited, he said, because it benefits segments of black and minority populations, but not all. And it is divisive because it creates a ‘perception and a reality of reverse discrimination that has actually engendered racism.’” (Lynne Duke, “Senators Seek Serious Dialogue On Race,” The Washington Post, 4/8/92) In 2004, Kerry Denied Ever Having Called Affirmative Action “Divisive.” CNN’s KELLY WALLACE: “We caught up with the Senator, who said he never called affirmative action divisive, and accused Clark of playing politics.” SEN. KERRY: “That’s not what I said. I said there are people who believe that. And I said mend it, don’t end it. He’s trying to change what I said, but you can go read the quote. I said very clearly I have always voted for it. I’ve always supported it. I’ve never, ever condemned it. I did what Jim Clyburn did and what Bill Clinton did, which is mend it. And Jim Clyburn wouldn’t be supporting it if it were otherwise. So let’s not have any politics here. Let’s keep the truth.” (CNN’s “Inside Politics,” 1/30/04) [/quote] |
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