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Nov 9th 2003#128187 Report
Member since: Mar 29th 2003
Posts: 1326
Why the **** cant ImageReady make tables without using spacer gifs?

http://trhaynes.commscentral.net:8000/cuba/

Can anyone help?

tom
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Nov 9th 2003#128191 Report
Member since: Aug 12th 2002
Posts: 1693
haha this looks familiar!
Had that problem 4 days ago or something like that!
I wanted a site to be 100% and that would happend with images that are as bgs...but no...
I couldn't figure out why the h... it still was to wide even though the images was as bgs...
But then I noticed there was a lot of spacer.gifs that was like 1200 pixels wide...and I couldn't delete them because then the whole layout crashed...
I asked around what to do...and there ain't anything you can do about this very anoying gifs...
So I had to make the whole site by hand...(I did get some help of Paavo :D) But after I finnished it, it was much better than makeing it with stupid image ready...
So I guess that's my best advice...do it by hand...just copy paste the images out...
And code it by hand...

...Or what do you think Paavo...LoL!
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Nov 9th 2003#128198 Report
Member since: May 22nd 2003
Posts: 315
Mkae your font size something big too... the images go all over the place... [and I mean font size in your browser]
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Nov 9th 2003#128210 Report
Member since: Apr 20th 2002
Posts: 3000
In most cases, you can just put the spacer.gifs where the layout ends, or where a 1px high transparent line won't screw anything up.

Else, you can just manually input the widths and heights.

Uncle deker would most likey say, "CSS it up foo'."
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Nov 10th 2003#128266 Report
Member since: Nov 26th 2001
Posts: 2586
Easy: Make your site and use image ready if you need. Make sure the images you want are named properly, then when its saved for web as a web page. delete all those images you dont want. Then rebuild the page.
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Nov 10th 2003#128282 Report
Member since: Mar 18th 2001
Posts: 6632
Or just code it by hand or at least in dreamweaver... ImageReady makes some really ****ty code. Just have it export images only, then just put them in your own table or a CSS layout. It's about 1 billion times easier and faster to edit down the road...
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Nov 10th 2003#128312 Report
Member since: Mar 18th 2001
Posts: 1604
if you take the time to build your tables correctly you won't need spacers and imageready won't create them. your top row "locks in" the widths of your columns for your entire table (which is what spacer gifs do). check out http://www.ozones.com/swirls-howto.html for an idea of how this works, really not too difficult.

chris
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Nov 11th 2003#128380 Report
Member since: Nov 26th 2001
Posts: 2586
Originally posted by deker
Or just code it by hand or at least in dreamweaver... ImageReady makes some really ****ty code. Just have it export images only, then just put them in your own table or a CSS layout. It's about 1 billion times easier and faster to edit down the road...


That is exactly what I was saying. - Just rebuild it (ie from scratch.)
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Nov 11th 2003#128439 Report
Member since: Mar 29th 2003
Posts: 1326
From the Ozone link:
I'm really pumped up about this new input/interface material I've discovered, called PAPER. It's made from the pulped corpses of these woody devices called TREES.


I love that kind of writing. Did anyone else find this absolutely hilarious? Or is it just that I have no life? :D

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OK, I'll do that. I was going to add to my post "I can make tables without having them fall apart - why can't ImageReady?" I guess thats exactly what I have to do :D

One thing I've found, though - is that there is a limit on how small td heights are, though? I deleted an image from between my navbar (it was transparent anyways) and the td expanded to be the height of my text. I deleted everything (spaces and all) inside the bitch, and it had height and width specified, and it still was too high. Is that why the spacer gifs are there? I really hate to be using images that are transparent - esp. ones of different sizes, you know?

tom
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Nov 11th 2003#128456 Report
Member since: Apr 20th 2002
Posts: 3000
td dimensions can go to 1px by 1px size, but if the content within it is bigger than 1x1, it'll expand to the size of the content.
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