George W. Bush Achievements

Originally posted by PaavoPerkele
Actually, I would like to see someone prove those points wrong.
I'm sure many are, but prove them wrong instead of just saying it's "liberal BS".

As far as I'm concerned, GWB is a flaming warcriminal and a corrupt piece of sh*t.

The easier of the two options is to prove them true. Would you agree?

If I said you stole 5 bottles of Jack Daniels and were arrested how you could prove that was not true. On the other hand if it was true there would be records of it somewhere. Either a paper, police records, etc.

But I see your point. I'll just throw this out. If we really "attacked and took over two countries" don't you think we would just keep rolling and take them all over? We would never do that. It just bugs me that our soldiers are over their being killed day by day and it seems non-appreciated. We are there to help. If we wanted to take over we could, but we won't. That is not what we do. We help those who are in trouble. The U.S. is the largest (by far) donater of money to poor countries.

Is that a good thing. I guess so. I'd be happy worrying more about the U.S. and keeping things safe here than blowing 87 billion in IRAQ. But then again Bush makes a valid point. Fight the bad guys on their turf, not ours? It's very easy to see either side fo this argument. "MY" opinion is we are doing the right thing and in the end history will show that we were. I don't want to try and imagine what would happen in the world if we (and many others) didn't try to stop terrorism now.

Well said Pank... I totally agree. I personally dont think GWB is doing that bad of a job considering all of the crap that has happened sence he has been in office. I think hes handled things rather well... ie Iraq, sept 11th, etc... Hes probably had to fix more **** then any other president.

But opinions are like asswholes everyones got one and some of them really stink.

Okay I'm kind of busy right now, but I'll edit this post answering the other questions later.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:

I attacked and took over two countries.

I helped rid two countries of destructive and cruel governments that were killing their own people. I
also am in the process of rebuilding those countries to a stable, active, and prosperous era.

I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the US Treasury.

Oh **** off. Find me proof of that.

I set all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the stock market.

Remember back in 2000 when then Gov. Bush was campaigning? He said that the country was on the verge of a recession. Liberals’ blood curdling screams could be heard for miles as they accused him of “badmouthing” the great Clinton economy. Now he’s blamed for it. Who’s badmouthing the economy now?

I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

Yeah, the OK City bomber. Find me an Oklahoma resident upset over that decision.

I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.

A ****ing DWI. So he got caught. You know he wasn’t the only president or presidential candidate to get in trouble for something. Most of the time their rich parents would try to cover it up. Ronald Regan was picked up by a cop when he was a little kid because he was throwing rocks at a window or something. I guess he’s a criminal too.

I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in US history.

Again, I want to see numbers. Look at Dean.

In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.

I want to see numbers, but again, Bush said it was coming.

I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president, since the advent of TV.

So you like a president that talks more than he works? I’m glad Bush hasn’t done press conferences. He’s going to be using up every last minute of his term in office hunting down the terrorist responsible for 9/11.

I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other US president in history.

Do what now???!! Last time I checked it was Congress who amended the constitution.

I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.

What are you talking about? There aren’t any specifics in this statement, give me some and I’ll prove it wrong.

I cut health care benefits for war veterans.

And he killed little kittens too? I want proof.

I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.

So he set the record for protesting against himself? I don’t remember this, so if I can get an article about all this pissed-off liberals crowding the streets give it to me.

I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history. embers of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US History. (The poorest multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her).

Then how are you getting all of this information? Maybe they’re rich because they know how to get a job done. Maybe they’re rich cause they know how to work to benefit an organization rather than themselves.

I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously struggle against bankruptcy.

*Cough*Depression*Cough* Roosevelt. Come on man, it’s a freaking recession. I’m struggling against paying off my car. Not that I can’t afford it, its just an inconvenience and an expense. We're always "struggling against bankruptcy", just sometimes the struggle is harder than normal.

I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world.

He caught the biggest corporate stock market fraud.

I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the vast majority of the international community.

The U.N. is a bunch of liberal pussies who would love to take away the individual rights of every person on the face of the planet. Liberals are trying to get rid of the constitution and replace it with the U.N. Charter.

I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States, called the "Bureau of Homeland Security"

Have we had another successful terrorist attack since the creation of this department. I was surprised we didn’t already have this department. So if you think we don’t need, or you don’t benefit from homeland security then you can complain.

I am the first president in US history to compel the
United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission.

The U.N. just tried to get back at us for doing the right thing when they wanted to leave it alone.

I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.

Cause it is. Remember the crisis in Rwanda, the U.N. was in that country at that time, but because of political tension, refused to do anything about it. 800,000 people died.

I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.

2002 elections? Where all the two-year term office holders are campaigning. Like I said, the U.N. is retarded.

I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied,saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1).

Give me a break. The secret service put the president and cabinet in secret bunkers to protect them so they could keep making decisions. The same would have happened for any other president in office. The SS just feared that maybe the terrorist could be targeting AF1.

I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.

Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? THE SHADOW KNOWS!

I took the world's sympathy for the US after 9/11,and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the iggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).

Wait now, you're saying France and Germany represents all the other countries who supported U.S. action in Iraq?

I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.

The biggest threat to world peace and stability is terrorism. But there was no 9/11 in Europe, so I don't expect them to understand it.

I set the all-time record for the number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.

I don't understand this one? You're saying the cabinet can't have stocks to benefit from when they retire?

I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.

Put the blame where it belongs. The ACLU and every other whining liberal in America.

In a little over two years, I have created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided that the US has been since the Civil War.

Actually, the liberals are just bitching a lot more now that they aren't getting their way.

I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

He said it was coming...

RECORDS AND REFERENCES:

I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).

And… Maybe there isn’t a Texas driving record because he didn’t get in trouble driving in Texas.

I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during time of war.

What war was that? He was a part of the Coast Guard.

I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.

Because it was a completely ridiculous accusation.

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

I can’t remember if you can either ask to have that done, or its done for everyone.

All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

You mean non-existent?

All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

Corporations have always sealed the minutes to their meetings. So what?

Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP)attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.

Hmmm, maybe because energy was only one of the things they talked about in those meetings.

For personal references, please speak to my dad or Uncle James Baker (They can be reached in their offices at the Carlyle Group where they are helping to divide up the spoils of the US-Iraq war and plan for the next one).

Ha ha, what a cheap shot you little bastard.

*applause*

What a bunch of BS that original post was. It was good that you posted it though, Spectra. Gave us something to talk about.

I'll bet Al Gore was half-glad that he didn't win the election. What a bunch of crap Bush had to deal with. I think he did a rather good job. I can listen to the other side of the story, though, too.

tom

*agrees with random*

*Applause, Applause...the stadium has risen to a standing ovation, whistling and cheering, "Go Random! Go Random!"*

I'll tell you, it's great when you get research instead of hearsay. It doesn't take any one to simply state what they've heard, but man...to break it down after looking for answers in truth. Yeah!

Random, what can I say?
*Pops the cork and throws hand up for a high five*

Well said, well said.

I also have to agree with Pank. Time is the best friend of truth, and when we get to the future and the present becomes history, we'll know, it was a good thing.

Cheers!

I found plenty of new clippings on cnn and msnbc that disagree with random.. I just choose not to post them so that you guys won't ramble on and make up excuse's for it.

There will, for a lengthy time, be an ongoing debate as to what is really going on. I doubt there are any excuses being made, and/or justifications.

But you know what I appreciate about those who opt out of repeating hearsay? It's the dynamics of critical thinking. Not just looking at something and saying, "Oh, gee...this sounds cool and controversial, I think I'll go with that for a while."

Nah, it's about research and thinking for oneself while remaining objective and unbiased, that will produce answers and challenges. After all, we really don't know that the media is telling us the whole truth.

But if you have a link, maybe you can shoot it our way so we can dissect it and have a go at it.

Cheers!

Random didnt research a lot of his answers. He simply defended them with his own hearsay. Zerimar3, I think you are blinded by the fact that he responded to so many of them. Why is everyone applauding random for explaining nothing. Or is saying "Thats garbage" and "**** that" qualify as a researched answer?

I helped rid two countries of destructive and cruel governments that were killing their own people. I
also am in the process of rebuilding those countries to a stable, active, and prosperous era.

This is your business because??? You wouldn't be invading/rebuilding a country if it didnt have potential economic value for the US. Why aren't you invading Egypt? Cuba? Burma? Of course you attacked Afghanistan as a statement, but haven't you turned your back on Afghanistan once already? Could that have been after you trained Bin Laden to help kill Russians? What happened there?

I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the US Treasury.


Oh **** off. Find me proof of that.

I quote: Federal Deficit Skyrockets Under Bush Administration
During his first two and a half years in office, Bush has catapulted the nation from a $127 billion surplus to a projected deficit of $1.9 trillion by 2008. The 2003 budget deficit is set to hit a record high of $455 billion, a dramatic increase from the $158 billion deficit for the 2002 fiscal year, the Washington Post reports. Estimates for 2004 place the budget deficit even higher at $475 billion—a sum which does not include the rapidly accumulating costs of the U.S. military presence in Iraq, which the Defense Department is currently estimating at $5 billion per month. The Post reported that White House budget director Joshua B. Bolton attributes 23% of the nation's deficit to the three successive Bush tax cuts.
Sources: Washington Post, "White House Foresees 5-Year Debt Increase of $1.9 Trillion," Jonathan Weisman, July 16, 2003

I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

Yeah, the OK City bomber. Find me an Oklahoma resident upset over that decision.

So? It's just a fact. Is there any need to shoot it down? Do you condone Capital punishment? That's where you should have went with your rant.

I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.

A ****ing DWI. So he got caught. You know he wasn’t the only president or presidential candidate to get in trouble for something. Most of the time their rich parents would try to cover it up. Ronald Regan was picked up by a cop when he was a little kid because he was throwing rocks at a window or something. I guess he’s a criminal too.

Again, another valid point you try to be-little. It's not a crime if you don't get caught. Speculate all you like, it's still true.

I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in US history.

Again, I want to see numbers. Look at Dean.

Again, people awed at your amazing answer. Lots of research into that one I bet. Another standing "O"

From the Washington Post
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0520-01.htm

In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.

I want to see numbers, but again, Bush said it was coming.

If you want numbers, why don't you look for them before knocking a post.
http://www.ndol.org/blueprint/2003_number_4/09_whammy.html

I cut health care benefits for war veterans.


And he killed little kittens too? I want proof.

I see no need to continue after this one.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/895634.asp

Everyone who said the first post was garbage, well, thats an opinon and fine to stick to. But everyone who jumped on randoms boat sort of showed some ignorance. I'm not saying the facts I put up are 100% accurate. But the point is, random tried shooting everything down, yet he was firing blanks. And everyone started agreeing with him. Again, another strong arguement of how people are so easily influenced.

Yeah, well I jumped on Random's boat for the simple reason that he didn't repeat hearsay. I stated that in both my posts. Tell me if you can find in either of my posts that I stated I agreed with Random or that I believed his every point.

Although I agree with several of his points, my whole applause thing comes from the fact that it wasn't hearsay that he just submitted.

Do you know how many times I've seen this attack towards President Bush? In my email, tons, on sites, innumerable, and when I saw it here, it wasn't original. What can I say, it's the creative side in me that likes to see creativity, first hand stuff. So I wouldn't go gettin' my panties in a knot just yet. My credits go to Random for not just saying, "Oh gee, this seems cool, I won't give it a second thought...I'll just repeat it."

It's also the fact that I appreciate education and knowledge. Now I'm far from being intelligent and smart, nonetheless, it's the fact that those are "his" words (no one else's) and that is appreciated on my behalf.

Cheers!