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Apr 26th 2003#101156 Report
Member since: Nov 26th 2001
Posts: 2586
Is it me or do other people get annoyed when webdevelopers insist on adding those hide html source code scripts....

My point is you can't hide it or keep people from viewing it. Your web page is put on a server with the main permission granted to any guest user. So anyone can download it or view it. Just putting in a script to stop right clicking, or viewing source just stops those methods, but anyone can save a link, or save as the site.... Plus html and Javascript is so widely available and there isnt anything really new about it, so what is the point in trying? It just takes up extra packets on the cyber universe.

My rant for the day ;P
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Apr 26th 2003#101158 Report
Member since: Dec 17th 2002
Posts: 150
lol those scripts suck. all they need to do is click the edit with thing, or click view>source to get around that stuff. it jus' makes people rip the site even more. a standard copyright line is all you need. anyone who rips can be sued
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Apr 26th 2003#101167 Report
Member since: Aug 9th 2001
Posts: 2333
view-source will always work...you might have to delete some 'jagon' though. But if their script calls variables from ther server, yup, that's annoying. But i have to say, if i made a script, i'd probaby do the same thing. You could compare it to someone taking your picture couldn't you?
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Apr 26th 2003#101168 Report
Member since: Apr 5th 2001
Posts: 2544
html is open source isn't it? I don't think you can copyright html.
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Apr 27th 2003#101188 Report
Member since: Mar 24th 2001
Posts: 3734
I see a lot of people who develop true web applications in ASP.NET are compiling the code into DLLs to keep people from stealing it.
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Apr 27th 2003#101212 Report
Member since: Nov 26th 2001
Posts: 2586
That is what my point is Mattboy.... When you have an application that is crucial to your work and is not html, then you can secure it. But HTML and Javascript are open to everyone. Its client side material and readily available. I mean what "new" html code have you written that is ground breaking that no one has ever thought of? Sorry. I just was viewing some html tutorials because I was bored and kept seeing these dang "hide" scripts and thought how ridiculous they are. The point is when you click a link and the code is run client side - ie it is sent to your browser and requires no cpu from the server, other than sending the request back. Where that code sits on the server is public, so you cant hide it. So stop using these silly scripts thinking you're precious html code is safe from viewing. Man i am soundling like an ass. Guess I should stop drinking so much coffee.
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Apr 27th 2003#101215 Report
Member since: Apr 25th 2003
Posts: 1977
" I mean what "new" html code have you written that is ground breaking that no one has ever thought of?"

This just made me think of xml. Although I wouldnt call most xml ground breaking lol. But even if you were to code with xml....it just gets parsed back to html on the server side so that would be pointless. Actually it would be dumber to steal xml cause if you were able to obtain the actual xml file......its source wouldnt mean anything unless you were the one that wrote it. anyway getting back on track I totally agree about the scripts. That drives me nuts. Its pointless. The only way to secure something is to not put it on the internet in the first place lol. As to copyright..........im almost sure u cant copyright your code......you can only copyright your layout...(insert large legal terms here). Also im willing to bet most ppl that use those scripts didnt write them. I mean its one thing to "hand code" a page... put some effort into it and not want ppl to gain access......but its another if your code was generated by a program in a split second. If someone was so "protective" of their site.....why not go flash??. Not like flash is really any more secure...its just a bit harder( or it takes more steps atleast) to get at. I would say....dont put the script in and let ppl have a looks see. Let them go to town with it even...cause if what they do with it looks in anyway similiar u can go the "satanclaus" way and sue them. What would u rather have...a silly script that drives visitors away.........or a couple of bucks or atleast the power the shut down someone elses site. I mean writting the "cease and decist" (sp) letter would be much more fun than writting a script!! anyway....enough rambling.
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